GenCon enables Sexual ass**lt?

tenbones · August 22, 2022, 09:17:21 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on August 22, 2022, 04:26:23 AM
Also, the number of FtM have gone up significantly in the English speaking world at least, mainly due to "sudden onset gender dysphoria", which is a strange medical condition affecting mostly teenage biological females who never showed the slightest proclivity toward gender dysphoria until they got on places like tumblr and tiktok and saw a bunch of teenage FtM saying how cool and amazing it is and how it solves all the awkward problems of being a teenage girl.

In the mean dirty streets of reality we just say: "grooming".

I actually know several people whose daughters grew up with mine, that went this exact route... And the drama is intense. Especially on the now-rare occasions we get together and Uncle Tenbones is forced to give the straight-talk as it's the only vernacular I'm capable of with those in my orbit. It's sad, disappointing and I can't say not a little maddening that family friends would let this happen to their own children.

Valatar · August 23, 2022, 01:38:23 AM

FtM teenage girls are the eating disorder of the 2020s. Teenagers are miserable about their bodies and their self-image, news at 11. And you'll notice that stuff like anorexia and bulemia have gone waaaaay over to the sidelines in the last few years. The difference being that if your daughter was starving herself in 2020, she wasn't being encouraged to do so by the media and 'science'. I agree with Pundit, there's going to be a nasty reckoning down the road for people who participated in this, sadly far too late to stop hundreds of girls from mutilating themselves.

Ruprecht · August 23, 2022, 10:24:35 AM

I don't intend to blame the victim, but she is not without some responsibility.

The victims statement says the two have been "friends" for years and the attack was a long uncomfortable hug and not what Whoopie would consider rape-rape. There is a good chance the roommates were given the chance to veto room selections and the friends declined. There is a really good chance the victim virtue signaled a level of friendship/comfort that didn't exist and the attacker misjudged the relationship. The last two are speculation of course, until more info comes out that's all we have.

I think virtue signaling leftism was more responsible than Gen Con.

Ruprecht · August 23, 2022, 10:36:13 AM

Question for the more legally minded folks. What would a prosecuting attorney make of the crime if the victim reported it to the police and was desperate to prosecute?
I know universities would kick the attacker off campus, and companies would distance themselves or fire them (as appears to have happened) but what would the law do? And should the law be changed?

RPGPundit · August 23, 2022, 11:02:15 AM

I'm giving a lot of leeway here because I was the one who veered off topic. That said, while everyone posting thus far gets a free pass, I expect this thread to go back onto the topic of Gencon.

Mistwell · August 23, 2022, 02:33:24 PM

Quote from: Ruprecht on August 23, 2022, 10:24:35 AM
I don't intend to blame the victim, but she is not without some responsibility.

The victims statement says the two have been "friends" for years and the attack was a long uncomfortable hug and not what Whoopie would consider rape-rape. There is a good chance the roommates were given the chance to veto room selections and the friends declined. There is a really good chance the victim virtue signaled a level of friendship/comfort that didn't exist and the attacker misjudged the relationship. The last two are speculation of course, until more info comes out that's all we have.

I think virtue signaling leftism was more responsible than Gen Con.

Given two other people were similarly "approached" by them during the same GenCon, sometimes mere minutes after an incident with this person, I am guessing this was not the case. This was alcohol and horniness. It sure seems like, if you had a pulse and were present and willing to talk to them in the most basic of acquaintance level ways, they were hitting on you.

Anon Adderlan · December 02, 2022, 07:20:12 AM

It's now been over three months and #GenCon has yet to make a statement on the matter.

Imagine my shock.

PulpHerb · December 02, 2022, 04:45:51 PM

Quote from: Anon Adderlan on December 02, 2022, 07:20:12 AM
It's now been over three months and #GenCon has yet to make a statement on the matter.

Imagine my shock.

They are in a no-win of their own creation. If they don't speak, they're endorsing violence against women. If they do speak, they're encouraging violence against transwomen.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. That people never notice progressives are hungriest for their own always amazes me.

wmarshal · December 02, 2022, 04:55:59 PM

Quote from: PulpHerb on December 02, 2022, 04:45:51 PM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan on December 02, 2022, 07:20:12 AM
It's now been over three months and #GenCon has yet to make a statement on the matter.

Imagine my shock.

They are in a no-win of their own creation. If they don't speak, they're endorsing violence against women. If they do speak, they're encouraging violence against transwomen.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. That people never notice progressives are hungriest for their own always amazes me.

But is anyone actually making any noise over GenCon's non-response? Stalling for time and being non-responsive can be effective. GenCon can hope this is one bad actor, now removed, without having to address the rooming situation. Now, if there's a second incident in the next year or two they probably can't continue to be non-responsive, but I bet they'd be willing to risk it to avoid having to make a declarative statement one way or the other.

Omega · December 02, 2022, 04:57:05 PM

Oh come on. We all knew they would do something like this.
SOP when one of their own gets caught is to just wait and eventually the cult will forget and move on to the next outrage.

Valatar · December 02, 2022, 11:57:50 PM

Yeah, being quiet and hoping it blows over is exactly what they're doing and likely to succeed. Rapey dude has doubtless been told to lay low for a few years, the women have been told he won't be back so please don't mention it further, now all they have to do is wait for the mayfly's memory of the public to run out.

PulpHerb · December 06, 2022, 10:20:12 PM

Not to mention relying on making it unwelcoming to those not willing to follow this week's marching orders for several years now.

I used to dream of going one year. Now, like SF-fandom, I'm glad I never did.