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GenCon 2022 topic

Started by wmarshal, August 04, 2022, 02:31:45 PM

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Effete

Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on August 05, 2022, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: Effete on August 05, 2022, 11:40:54 AM

Oh, he had the money. Just not the business savvy.  ;D

According to the blog post, it was all someone elses fault. Because of course he can't take responsibility for what people do on his company's behalf (assuming it's even true, which I have doubts about). He CLAIMS that this person knows where some inventory is, but alludes to them withholding that info from him. Like, WTF? How the hell, as a business owner, do you NOT KNOW, where your product is held?! This guy is either lying or he's mind-numbingly incompetent. Let's just assume it is true though... why tf you gonna fire the guy before getting your product back? Or the records for all this "information" the guy was supposedly privvy to? As Tony Stark would say: Not a great plan!

The whole post reads like a hit piece on a former employee rather than what it should be, an apology letter to the fans. But as typical with these narcissists, it's all deflection and excuses. The only time he even mentioned being sorry it was for having "to bring you all this news with such short notice." He's not sorry there won't be product, he's only sorry he didn't break the news sooner. What a stand up guy!


OOOHhhhh I'll have to track this blog post down. Juicy

EDIT: Oh wow, this dude's game is going in the tank. Sounds like they can't get any shite together.

It was linked above. Here it is
https://coyoteandcrow.net/2022/08/01/gen-con-2022/


rytrasmi

Even if he had to buy a few copies of his own game retail, it's better than showing up empty handed and whining about it. But, really, what designer doesn't have a few copies of their work sitting around?

Or how about you print off some concept art and early design notes and show that off? Or sell shirts, stickers, whatever. All this stuff can be quickly and easily printed if you happen to lack a copy of your own book.
The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
Be merry my friends
Be merry

Koltar

Aside from picking on one booth or vendor.....

I really, REALLY wish I could have gone to it this year.

Around 4 to 5 months ago I chose a local friend or local situation over "...going to Gen Con".

Last time I went was in 2019 - 6 to 7 months before the pandemic and all the lockdown situations happened.
Now I see almost half of my friends posting picture to Facebook and I wish I was there. Several of them I have asked to purchase miniatures for me that I think are only available 'there'

So, I am living vicariously via pictures that people are posting.

What happened to the guy on here that used to post pictures mostly 'live' while he was there or daily?
Those threads were fun.

- Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

Ghostmaker

Free quickstart guides. Pins, posters, dice. T-shirts. What the heck is this guy doing? Set aside his crappy socjus politics: this guy is terrible at marketing a game.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Mistwell on August 05, 2022, 12:28:51 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2022, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: wmarshal on August 04, 2022, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 04, 2022, 06:36:21 PM
Coyote & Crow themselves announced a few days ago that they would be unable to sell product at Gen Con this year:
https://coyoteandcrow.net/2022/08/01/gen-con-2022/

Congratulations, detective!

Also, lollin @ not being able to switch off metadata on your cel phone pics. Fuckin' Google, how does it work?
He definitely has a booth at GenCon, and definitely blew $20k plus on a fiasco. I think he only stayed at his booth for an hour before he bailed. Can't say that I blame him for hiding his face.

As for investigating, I never claimed I found out a deep secret. It can't be secret with the company's name on the booth. I am pointing out this Woke jerk's failure, and whatever sob story he puts on his website for an assumed friendly audience he still failed to deliver on his plans on being at GenCon with product to sell and promote his game. The excuses are just that, and don't contradict his failure. It's also telling that instead of even coming up with some posters or flyers to help promote the game all he could do was make up some buttons to virtue-signal, as if that would cover his failure as a game developer and producer.

Pretending Bull made about 1 cool million from his KS, you mean to tell me he has no money to print some books to sell at the convention?

LOL.

Seriously, in the very least SOMETHING about your game to show to people. Not even a poster? A laptop with images up on it? ANYTHING?

A tablet with the pdf, some pregen characters, hell you could sell the pdf for 5 bucks.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Ghostmaker on August 05, 2022, 02:07:16 PM
Free quickstart guides. Pins, posters, dice. T-shirts. What the heck is this guy doing? Set aside his crappy socjus politics: this guy is terrible at marketing a game.

Just go read his "White people you're racist give me money" post over the C&C thread. (link in the OP)
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Effete

So I tried finding out what made their presentation at Origins such a "sloppy mess", but couldn't find anything useful. I was curious to see if this was a repeat occurrance, signifying that the guy just does not learn from his mistakes. To me, it sounds like he simply does not know how to manage a business (which includes managing your employees), and instead scapegoats them for what is ultimately his own failures.

Effete

#38
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2022, 02:13:37 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on August 05, 2022, 02:07:16 PM
Free quickstart guides. Pins, posters, dice. T-shirts. What the heck is this guy doing? Set aside his crappy socjus politics: this guy is terrible at marketing a game.

Just go read his "White people you're racist give me money" post over the C&C thread. (link in the OP)

The link was actually in the OTHER thread. ;)
https://coyoteandcrow.net/2022/04/23/an-important-message-from-connor/#more-510

Edit - To be honest, a lot of what he said in that post wasn't all that bad. He was mostly calling out all the white guilt idiots who are too afraid of the cancel mob to just have a little fun. Of course, this whole white guilt mentality was fostered by SJWs who kept screaming "cultural appropriation" at everything from dreadlocks to noserings, so who's really to blame? Ironically, the book perpetuates white guilt by telling white people not to insert any real world Indian cultures, but Indian poeple can if they want. It doesn't matter if your anthropologist in Native American studies, if you don't have magic blood, you can't possibly do it with any amount of sensitivity.

Even though some of the messaging is actually helpful, it's obviously hypocritical. He's shaming people for their white guilt, but then berates and bullies them for being "racist" hoping they buy his product. He's literally banking on their white guilt while criticising them for it. Unbelievable.

wmarshal

Quote from: Effete on August 05, 2022, 01:29:48 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on August 05, 2022, 12:28:51 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2022, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: wmarshal on August 04, 2022, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 04, 2022, 06:36:21 PM
Coyote & Crow themselves announced a few days ago that they would be unable to sell product at Gen Con this year:
https://coyoteandcrow.net/2022/08/01/gen-con-2022/

Congratulations, detective!

Also, lollin @ not being able to switch off metadata on your cel phone pics. Fuckin' Google, how does it work?
He definitely has a booth at GenCon, and definitely blew $20k plus on a fiasco. I think he only stayed at his booth for an hour before he bailed. Can't say that I blame him for hiding his face.

As for investigating, I never claimed I found out a deep secret. It can't be secret with the company's name on the booth. I am pointing out this Woke jerk's failure, and whatever sob story he puts on his website for an assumed friendly audience he still failed to deliver on his plans on being at GenCon with product to sell and promote his game. The excuses are just that, and don't contradict his failure. It's also telling that instead of even coming up with some posters or flyers to help promote the game all he could do was make up some buttons to virtue-signal, as if that would cover his failure as a game developer and producer.

Pretending Bull made about 1 cool million from his KS, you mean to tell me he has no money to print some books to sell at the convention?

LOL.

Seriously, in the very least SOMETHING about your game to show to people. Not even a poster? A laptop with images up on it? ANYTHING?

This was precisely my thoughts on this.

According to the blog post, the former Event Coordinator knows where some inventory is (whatever that means), but how or why that never made it to the booth is a mystery. I can understand having issues with printed books arriving on time (if that was the case), but not having any t-shirts, stickers, or posters? He had time to order "I only game with baby murderers" pins, so I see no excuse he couldn't have pins that... oh, I dunno... PROMOTED HIS FUKKEN GAME!
In the current mindset of the Woke, being pro-abortion (Bill Clinton may have been the last major Democrat leader who was pro-choice instead of pro-abortion) is worth more Woke points than his game. He is terrible at managing a business, but he's magnificent at playing by the Woke game.

I wonder if he has an issue where the product isn't being held hostage by the ex-employee, but he didn't actually order as much as originally intended. He had enough for the backers, and for some stores, but part of his plea for whites to buy his game out of guilt is to generate additional orders to justify more production. Honestly I'm surprised he was actually able to produce the game. So many funded rpg kickstarters fail to deliver. So I must at least acknowledge he delivered on the Kickstarter.

Koltar

Damnit..

The 'Infinity Mirror' quote boxes have started up again.

There has got to be a better way to do the quoting...

- Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

wmarshal

Quote from: Mistwell on August 05, 2022, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: wmarshal on August 04, 2022, 02:31:45 PM
I thought I'd start a topic on what people are seeing at GenCon, thinking I might not be the only member here.

Tell us about any cool stuff you see there. Or any games you play.

Wish I were there this year.
Not that much I saw that I'd call cool other than the inflatable mech, which is certainly cool. More encouraged by the higher number of attendees and vendors in the dealer hall as a reflection of returning health to the industry.

Nothing struck me as being a big launch that I was interested in, though I'm sure there were some that would interest others. The LotFP booth was less busy than prior years. I wish someone could convince Raggi to do more generally useful gaming material that was only somewhat weird. Flipping through his books and seeing outright fucked up disturbing things set in the late renaissance over and over and over again is a very, very narrow niche. Some of  the books are are almost works of art in their construction and production values, but the content is so damned out there weird/disturbing/grotesque since his early products I lose interest. More Grinding Gear, and less sexual cannibalism and bestiality in powdered wigs, please, for the love of God, please.

Sorry, you wanted what was cool, and I think I failed in that. I guess what's cool is that is seems the industry is resetting to be in a position to offer genuinely cool gaming material next year. (Last year was sad, and I'll leave it at that.)

Thornhammer

I'm gonna see what dregs of BattleTech I can snarf up on Sunday. They had some of the new Alpha Strike boxes for sale, but those went in like two hours on day one.

Klytus

Quote from: Thornhammer on August 05, 2022, 07:58:44 PM
I'm gonna see what dregs of BattleTech I can snarf up on Sunday. They had some of the new Alpha Strike boxes for sale, but those went in like two hours on day one.

Might wanna hold off on that. Catalyst recently fired an author for the sin of being a proud conservative and writing a conservative novel.

https://amgreatness.com/2022/07/29/my-publisher-canceled-me-in-favor-of-an-activist-who-threatened-my-life/

I'd recently been getting back into battletech too...
Klytus, I'm bored. What plaything can you offer me today?

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wmarshal

I walked by the Coyote and Crow booth today. It was being manned by another vendor for Robotech and Valiant Wars. I suppose someone decided it'd be better to let another vendor into the empty space than have a bare booth with the Coyote and Crow label on it. Ought to have been done sooner, but at least it happened at some point.