Oh man this is so fun. I'll refresh my popcorn and soda from watching the cancer that is Twitter flaming out. Now it's fun watching WotC flaming out....huzzah.

This is crazy, what are they going to pay these people? Man, we all know that salaries are a major drain on company funds. This is amazing. I guess they're just following the 'rule of three' from planescape right?

When they go digital a woke mistake will be super-costly. I assume this is some kind of insurance against that sort of thing. I also don't think you can buy off the woke because what is horrifically unacceptable today is ever changing.

Just when you thought D&D couldn't get more bland and sterile....
But seriously, by the end of the decade, I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of conflict entirely and turned it into a Steven Universe simulator where the the goals are "be queer" (whatever that means) and "make friends".

The sad part is this will validate all those weirdoes who spent four years wasting their parent's money getting a degree on something stupid, like asian footbinding or underwater lesbian basketweaving. These consulting positions are not productive jobs. They are, in fact, destructive jobs and no one should be encouraging this market.

Absolutely anything that hurts WotC is good for the hobby long term.

I'm sure all this staff bloat is going to exist as the recession deepens.

LOL.

Just wait until Christmas sales are shitty. Total retail panic will set in.

The mass firings at Hasbro & WotC will be hysterical.

They ought to be able to get some former Twitter employees cheap.

Quote from: Tasty_Wind on November 18, 2022, 11:39:36 PM
Just when you thought D&D couldn't get more bland and sterile....
But seriously, by the end of the decade, I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of conflict entirely and turned it into a Steven Universe simulator where the the goals are "be queer" (whatever that means) and "make friends".

That seems to be the end goal of the people currently in charge.

This has to be the magnum opus of their comedy absurd. They've moved from a bunch of hypocritical finger waggers to a Monty Python skit. This gave me quite a good laugh.

QuoteBut seriously, by the end of the decade, I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of conflict entirely and turned it into a Steven Universe simulator where the the goals are "be queer" (whatever that means) and "make friends".

Generally - doubtful. Such games exists, woke mobs are aware and many of them prefer them, D&D as general gist is criticized there, or at least disliked.
However you can only move as far. I skim various D&D streams, and all those pinko-haired wokesters somehow still love punching baddies in the face.
I'd rather expect menagerie of baddies to change somehow. White supremacist dragons, Ku-Klux-Cthulhu, hypocrytical clerics of paladin gods, hypocrytical paladin gods, greedy industralist elves (never gnomes), evil race of orange skinned sexist people, and so on.

The perfect scenario is that WoTC goes spectacularly broke, and the D&D Trademark gets released from its clutches and a glorious new era begins of truly open source D&D.

Of course, that's not likely to happen...the D&D brand will no doubt be acquired by someone (it's probably still worth a pretty penny), who will hopefully get rid of all the parasitic wokeness that's been incorporated into it.

Quote from: Osman Gazi on November 23, 2022, 05:39:17 PM
The perfect scenario is that WoTC goes spectacularly broke, and the D&D Trademark gets released from its clutches and a glorious new era begins of truly open source D&D.

Of course, that's not likely to happen...the D&D brand will no doubt be acquired by someone (it's probably still worth a pretty penny), who will hopefully get rid of all the parasitic wokeness that's been incorporated into it.

The better scenario would be that the D&D brand/IP gets run into the ground and shelved.

Let someone else use the various OGL's and make a alternate fantasy RPG that replaces it.

It will never get to WotC D&D's heights, and that would actually be a good thing for the hobby.

Quote from: Jaeger on November 23, 2022, 09:10:39 PM

Quote from: Osman Gazi on November 23, 2022, 05:39:17 PM
The perfect scenario is that WoTC goes spectacularly broke, and the D&D Trademark gets released from its clutches and a glorious new era begins of truly open source D&D.

Of course, that's not likely to happen...the D&D brand will no doubt be acquired by someone (it's probably still worth a pretty penny), who will hopefully get rid of all the parasitic wokeness that's been incorporated into it.

The better scenario would be that the D&D brand/IP gets run into the ground and shelved.

Let someone else use the various OGL's and make a alternate fantasy RPG that replaces it.

It will never get to WotC D&D's heights, and that would actually be a good thing for the hobby.

the best case scenario is that someone makes a truly setting agnostic fantasy centered RPG system like I talked about once on this forum.

Quote from: Jaeger on November 23, 2022, 09:10:39 PM

Quote from: Osman Gazi on November 23, 2022, 05:39:17 PM
The perfect scenario is that WoTC goes spectacularly broke, and the D&D Trademark gets released from its clutches and a glorious new era begins of truly open source D&D.

Of course, that's not likely to happen...the D&D brand will no doubt be acquired by someone (it's probably still worth a pretty penny), who will hopefully get rid of all the parasitic wokeness that's been incorporated into it.

The better scenario would be that the D&D brand/IP gets run into the ground and shelved.

Let someone else use the various OGL's and make a alternate fantasy RPG that replaces it.

It will never get to WotC D&D's heights, and that would actually be a good thing for the hobby.

Isn't this in effect what the OSR is already doing? I can see WOTC D&D withering away (3 sensitivity readers today reviewing every word, going up to 9+ by 2030 will crush any valid creative output in any IP), but I don't see a need for anyone specific to then create the alternate RPGs to replace it. I see it in progress with the OSR, where I see way more creativity and excitement. None of the OSR entities will likely become the center of gravity that WOTC D&D was, but that's to the good. At some point D&D may just become used more as a term for generic d20 fantasy, and not limited to only referring to official D&D. That'd be similar to how 'band-aid' has become a generic term despite 'Band-Aid' also being a specific brand.

Quote from: RPGPundit on November 19, 2022, 07:00:57 PM

Quote from: Tasty_Wind on November 18, 2022, 11:39:36 PM
Just when you thought D&D couldn't get more bland and sterile....
But seriously, by the end of the decade, I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of conflict entirely and turned it into a Steven Universe simulator where the the goals are "be queer" (whatever that means) and "make friends".

That seems to be the end goal of the people currently in charge.

They and the worst of the storygamer nuts were pushing this during the 5e playtest.

"Wwah wah wah! D&D is all about conflict and nothing else because it is mostly rules about conflict! waaaah!"
"Um... you just, you know, role-play talking to the NPCs?"
"Wahhhh! No! There are combat ruuuuules and I can NEEEEEVERRRRRRRRR talk to an NPC!"

ad nausium.

We ran into this with the 90s iteration to on a much lesser, though no less annoying, scale.