I was unaware of Gamergate, but I had heard some rumblings about PC/gender warriors on RPGnet.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/living/gamergate-explainer/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Is there any relationship between gamergate and what has been happening on RPGnet (and other places, too, probably). It sounds quite similar.

Also, have the same forces that have infiltrated the videogame world also infiltrated the pnp D&D RPG world, to wit:

You can play a male or female character without gaining
any special benefits or hindrances. Think about how
your character does or does not conform to the broader
culture’s expectations of sex, gender, and sexual
behavior. For example, a male drow cleric defies the
traditional gender divisions of drow society, which could
be a reason for your character to leave that society and
come to the surface.

You don’t need to be confined to binary notions of
sex and gender. The elf god Corellon Larethian is often
seen as androgynous or hermaphroditic, for example,
and some elves in the multiverse are made in Corellon’s
image. You could also play a female character who
presents herself as a man, a man who feels trapped in a
female body, or a bearded female dwarf who hates being
mistaken for a male. Likewise, your character’s sexual
orientation is for you to decide.

There's already a thread to discuss this thing they call gamergate in other games.

I might be whistling in the wind, but i was trying to keep it out of the main forum.

Seriously?

Do we have to take the anti-RPGnet thing well into frankly misogynistic territory?

Gamergate started with a horrible attempt at character assassination and became a rallying cry for misogynistic troglodites everywhere under the veneer of "crusade for journalistic integrity in gaming" or somesuch. The whole thing's about as "honest" as the recent accusations Zak and Pundit have had to endure.

I see nothing good coming out of this.

As for the passagem quoted from the 5e PHB, they make LGBT happy and change nothing about the game itself.

I see nothing bad coming out of this.

#gamergate is a real shame, because loonies on both sides have latched on to what is a real issue: namely a very small group of self-absorbed intelligentsia thinking they are the elite members of a group, and being openly dismissive if not outright hostile toward the group they are making money from.  The only difference between the gaming journalists and the people they make money from is 1. probably geography, 2. their daddies paid for a slightly higher level of education (maybe).

That gaming journalism has an incestuous relationship with the object of it's coverage is no different from any journalism now, really.

Are the gaming journalists the same kind of asshat as the tangency crew on awfulpurple? Yes.

Unfortunately, the MRA jackasses have latched onto this and are putting truth to the original lie the gaming journalists tried to tell when they colluded on a response.

Butcher, if you think #gamergate is mysogynistic, how about looking at the videos of women supporting it and looking at #notyourshield.  

"The paragraph"?  Dude, that's so three months ago.

Yeah, this isn't going to fly here.

Go to the other thread if you want to discuss this.

Closed.

Quote from: CRKrueger;792385#gamergate is a real shame, because loonies on both sides have latched on to what is a real issue: namely a very small group of self-absorbed intelligentsia thinking they are the elite members of a group, and being openly dismissive if not outright hostile toward the group they are making money from.  The only difference between the gaming journalists and the people they make money from is 1. probably geography, 2. their daddies paid for a slightly higher level of education (maybe).

I agree with keeping this thread closed, but I also agree with seeing this as a central issue of gamergate; which has nevertheless been ruined by a combination of moronic assholes doing stupid and irrelevant things, and self-serving elitist assholes using that to delegitimize any dissent from their personal ideological agenda.