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Gambling on D&D games?

Started by Spinachcat, February 28, 2018, 02:03:04 AM

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Thondor

#30
December 30, 2023, 09:08:44 PM
Quote from: jhkim on April 06, 2023, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: jenkinslord on April 03, 2023, 05:00:28 AM
Board games, war games, and video games definitely require skill, so it makes sense. But gambling on D&D games?! That's a whole new level. I mean, people already love watching others play D&D, so why not throw down a bet and make it even more exciting? If this becomes a reality, I could see it being a thing on some of the best low minimum deposit casinos out there. Imagine rolling a critical hit and winning some sweet cash on the side. It's a unique concept, but who knows? It could catch on.

I think people here don't remember the era of D&D tournaments in the 1970s and 1980s. You can find tournament scoring rules in a bunch of the early modules, which were used at conventions to see which players advanced to the second round.

I never liked that side of things, but it was influential for a time.

Expeditious Retreat Press did a few tournament modules, usually for GenCon. Stonesky Delve (2010), Obsidian Sands of Syncrates (2011), I feel like there's another one that I can't identify. Scorings based on how much area's explored in Stonesky with a penalty for lost PCs.

One of the nice things about these is they have pre-made PCs in them so you can just grab them and run. I used the pre-gens from G1 when I ran XRP's "G4" The Aerie of the Cloud Giant Strategos.

I'd be interested to know if anyone here played in any tournament games with scoring!

yosemitemike

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December 30, 2023, 11:30:36 PM Last Edit: December 30, 2023, 11:43:13 PM by yosemitemike
Quote from: Thondor on December 30, 2023, 09:08:44 PM
I'd be interested to know if anyone here played in any tournament games with scoring!

I did but it was a really long time ago.  Paizo did something sort of like this with the seasonal special scenarios.  They were mainly for conventions but any venue could do it if you had at least 4 tables running at once.  I ran one of the tables for Race for the Runecarved Key.  There was a scoring system and the winning team got a replica of the key.  I think they got a special chronicle sheet too.  It has been several years since then.
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Digitalelf

#32
December 31, 2023, 12:56:28 AM
The X-Files had an episode where the "Lone Gunmen" were engaged in a "high stakes game of D&D" in which they were gambling on what looked to be the "to hit roll". Though it didn't actually say or show, it was the mid 1990's so the edition was probably AD&D 2nd Edition.

yosemitemike

#33
December 31, 2023, 01:02:21 AM
Quote from: Digitalelf on December 31, 2023, 12:56:28 AM
The X-Files had an episode where the "Lone Gunmen" were engaged in a "high stakes game of D&D" in which they were gambling on what looked to be the "to hit roll". Though it didn't actually say or show, it was the mid 1990's so the edition was probably AD&D 2nd Edition.

That didn't make any sense to me even at the time.  I remember when the character said that and I blurted out "oh fuck off".  It came across as something written by a writer who has heard of D&D but has no idea what it actually is.
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

Digitalelf

#34
December 31, 2023, 01:13:00 AM
Quote from: yosemitemike on December 31, 2023, 01:02:21 AMThat didn't make any sense to me even at the time.  I remember when the character said that and I blurted out "oh fuck off".  It came across as something written by a writer who has heard of D&D but has no idea what it actually is.

LOL... I didn't say it made since!  Just that it existed. ;D
But yeah, the writers probably wanted those three characters to be a part of "geek culture" but had no idea what that actually looked like in the real world.

Venka

#35
December 31, 2023, 07:20:07 PM
If it was a well defined scenario and ruleset, I could see how gambling might make sense. But it would need to be certain snippets.  Honestly, I think the only D&D game that would make sense in this context would be, "gamble on the result of this given fight" with the stuff made public... and the version number equal to 4, because that is moooostly a wargame, or at least, close enough that the rules are fully defined.

Speaking of, I could totally see betting on like, Warhammer.

Mishihari

#36
January 08, 2024, 01:27:19 AM
I'll join the others saying that it wouldn't work because it would be entirely too easy to fix.  It would be like betting on a WWF match

Dadjahant

#37
January 29, 2024, 08:43:03 AM
 Amidst the creativity of orchestrating memorable experiences, this online casino has become a thrilling escape. The diverse range of games stirs up emotions akin to the excitement I strive to evoke in my events.

Aglondir

#38
January 29, 2024, 03:21:31 PM
Quote from: Dadjahant on January 29, 2024, 08:43:03 AM
Amidst the creativity of orchestrating memorable experiences, this online casino has become a thrilling escape. The diverse range of games stirs up emotions akin to the excitement I strive to evoke in my events.

Which online casino?
Can you explain more about the diverse range of role-palying games it has?
And please elaborate on your events!

Ruprecht

#39
February 01, 2024, 01:33:18 PM
The only way it would work is some kind of fantasy football scenario where you but on how many hits or damage specific PCs take and create your team out of a number of PCs from different online games. But the players would have to play consistently each week for it to make any sense and it still seems like it would be such a small number of folks interested as to be pointless.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

Ruprecht

#40
February 01, 2024, 01:34:13 PM
Quote from: pawsplay on December 29, 2023, 06:48:41 PM
Funny story, Gygax was approached about D&D appearing in E.T., but wasn't given much of the script to look at. Based on the scene having money on the table while they were playing, Gygax was worried that it would look like it was a gambling game, and declined.
I'm not sure I get it because they had D&D in the opening scene of E.T.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

OebDowns

#41
March 26, 2024, 08:58:00 AM
The SCOTUS ruling on online gambling is sending ripples through the gaming world! The focus on "games of skill" opens up intriguing possibilities. Now, considering D&D in the mix, it's a fascinating idea! I've seen the rise of e-sports betting, and it's wild. If people already watch others play D&D, why not spice it up a bit? It might seem like a leap, but D&D gambling could be the next frontier in the gaming industry. Speaking of betting and gambling, what is the best online casino in the USA, in your opinion? I want to try my luck in gambling, and I will be grateful if you share your experience!

Nakana

#42
March 26, 2024, 07:30:58 PM
I don't see this ever really taking off, but if I were to gamble on rpgs it would be dice-centric that the players or GM couldn't skew. I bet they roll a fumble this round, or a crit this encounter, etc.

VengerSatanis

#43
March 26, 2024, 07:41:33 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on February 28, 2018, 02:03:04 AM
SCOTUS (supreme court of the united states) is going to rule on a landmark case regarding online gambling by July.
https://www.legalsportsreport.com/18662/decision-in-nj-sports-betting-case/

The case is about gambling on "games of skill" which are technically legal-ish (aka DraftKings) in some parts of the USA.

Boardgames and war games are certainly games of skill, as are many video games. Mark Cuban of Shark Tank is involved in an e-sports betting startup, aka gambling on first person shooters could become a thing.

If this happens...as we swim every deeper into our cyperpunk dystopia...do you feel there could be any market for gambling on D&D games?

AKA, if there are already people watching others play D&D, I wonder how long until someone starts tossing down a bet?

Long ago, I chose RPGs over poker... and that decision was made easier when playing online was deemed illegal by the federal government.  So, I'm actually excited by the prospect of that bullshit being overturned just for the Texas Hold'em alone!  Sure, there's luck involved... but poker is a skill game, same goes with RPGs.

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