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From WOTC to Hasbro...

Started by Jam The MF, January 18, 2022, 05:22:36 PM

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S'mon

#60
January 26, 2022, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: Omega on January 26, 2022, 02:44:57 PM
Quote from: S'mon on January 22, 2022, 03:48:58 AM
5e actually has been holding up very well AFAICT - it has great 'legs', which seems to have been part of the (Mearls-led) plan 2012-14. While I don't think Crawford's recent messing around with 5e has helped sales, I doubt it has impacted sales much either. I don't think his more Woke recent material has sold particularly well, but I don't think that has harmed the overall bottom line very much yet either.

Crawfords been messing with 5e since practically the get-go. If you ask him and Mearls a question about the rules. Odds are very high that Crawford will answer the near diametric opposite of Mearls. This was apparent early on in 5es release. After that he seemed to settle down for a while, with brief flare-ups. Then recently hes been pushing more and more stuff thats impacting the bottom line one way or another.

Why? Who knows. Some of his answers remind me a bit of that woman who for a time ran the Q&A section of Dragon and deliberately gave bad answers because she wanted to discourage kids staying inside playing RPGs when they should be outside.

I don't know if this has anything to do with Wokeness, but his Sage/Twitter answers do often seem to make special effort to be bad/perverse.

Omega

#61
January 26, 2022, 03:03:08 PM
Quote from: S'mon on January 22, 2022, 03:51:56 AM

It used to be true that MTG dominated D&D, but that has not been true for several years, as Mistwell will no doubt explain with much gloating.  ;D

MTG sales have been slowly declining since the CCG bubble burst. Its not a huge decline, but I've noticed their section in stores is slowly shrinking. And for a time their Pokemon CCG was outselling MTG.

Omega

#62
January 26, 2022, 03:08:26 PM
Quote from: S'mon on January 26, 2022, 02:59:45 PM

I don't know if this has anything to do with Wokeness, but his Sage/Twitter answers do often seem to make special effort to be bad/perverse.

This started long before any SJW hints and is very noticeable sometimes. And it is very obviously not because of his proclaimed different playing style.

Someone had a list of some of the more WTF answers but cant find it now. But the "Only one hour of continuous combat can break a long rest" still stands out as poster child for something being seriously the fuck wrong.

Shasarak

#63
January 26, 2022, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 25, 2022, 02:32:55 AM
Quote from: Jaeger on January 25, 2022, 02:12:56 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on January 24, 2022, 09:19:15 PM
They should thank you for providing such a textbook example of predictable SJW behavior.
Mistwell isn't a SJW.

Its worse, he is a lawyer.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Innocent Smith

#64
January 27, 2022, 07:31:29 AM
Quote from: Omega on January 26, 2022, 03:08:26 PM
Quote from: S'mon on January 26, 2022, 02:59:45 PM

I don't know if this has anything to do with Wokeness, but his Sage/Twitter answers do often seem to make special effort to be bad/perverse.

This started long before any SJW hints and is very noticeable sometimes. And it is very obviously not because of his proclaimed different playing style.

Someone had a list of some of the more WTF answers but cant find it now. But the "Only one hour of continuous combat can break a long rest" still stands out as poster child for something being seriously the fuck wrong.
Does the average dungeon even contain an hour of total combat encounters? In my experience, assuming 1 turn is about 6 seconds, the average combat encounter lasts about 30 seconds. That's 120 combat encounters per hour. It's a "technically" valid reading of the rules, and to be fair any combination of different strenuous activities would count against the hour, but it'd be absurd for him to not at least advise against doing it that way, since he's supposed to be offering sage advice. It's kinda in the name.

Ghostmaker

#65
January 27, 2022, 07:56:15 AM
Quote from: Innocent Smith on January 27, 2022, 07:31:29 AM
Quote from: Omega on January 26, 2022, 03:08:26 PM
Quote from: S'mon on January 26, 2022, 02:59:45 PM

I don't know if this has anything to do with Wokeness, but his Sage/Twitter answers do often seem to make special effort to be bad/perverse.

This started long before any SJW hints and is very noticeable sometimes. And it is very obviously not because of his proclaimed different playing style.

Someone had a list of some of the more WTF answers but cant find it now. But the "Only one hour of continuous combat can break a long rest" still stands out as poster child for something being seriously the fuck wrong.
Does the average dungeon even contain an hour of total combat encounters? In my experience, assuming 1 turn is about 6 seconds, the average combat encounter lasts about 30 seconds. That's 120 combat encounters per hour. It's a "technically" valid reading of the rules, and to be fair any combination of different strenuous activities would count against the hour, but it'd be absurd for him to not at least advise against doing it that way, since he's supposed to be offering sage advice. It's kinda in the name.
Depends on the dungeon. I know when I ran Caverns of Quasqueton it took multiple days for the party to clear it to their satisfaction.

Admittedly, this also included salvaging as much of the furnishings as possible to sell off, and plotting to murder the architect.

Zalman

#66
January 27, 2022, 08:51:44 AM
Quote from: Reckall on January 26, 2022, 05:00:11 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 25, 2022, 05:12:26 PM
Into the Spiderverse, tokenized Spider-Man... Hard Pass.

In my book Into the Spiderverse was great.

Not often I agree with Reckall, so worth noting!

Just because Into the Spiderverse has a black spiderman doesn't make it tokenized. The theme wasn't about race at all that I could make out. The movie kind of gets actual diversity right without explicitly making any such claim: it's about entirely different universes. There's a Mecha-spiderman too, and a Toon spiderman. And yes, Peter Parker is in it.
Old School? Back in my day we just called it "School."

horsesoldier

#67
January 27, 2022, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: S'mon on January 26, 2022, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: Omega on January 26, 2022, 02:44:57 PM
Quote from: S'mon on January 22, 2022, 03:48:58 AM
5e actually has been holding up very well AFAICT - it has great 'legs', which seems to have been part of the (Mearls-led) plan 2012-14. While I don't think Crawford's recent messing around with 5e has helped sales, I doubt it has impacted sales much either. I don't think his more Woke recent material has sold particularly well, but I don't think that has harmed the overall bottom line very much yet either.

Crawfords been messing with 5e since practically the get-go. If you ask him and Mearls a question about the rules. Odds are very high that Crawford will answer the near diametric opposite of Mearls. This was apparent early on in 5es release. After that he seemed to settle down for a while, with brief flare-ups. Then recently hes been pushing more and more stuff thats impacting the bottom line one way or another.

Why? Who knows. Some of his answers remind me a bit of that woman who for a time ran the Q&A section of Dragon and deliberately gave bad answers because she wanted to discourage kids staying inside playing RPGs when they should be outside.

I don't know if this has anything to do with Wokeness, but his Sage/Twitter answers do often seem to make special effort to be bad/perverse.

He's a subversive in the classical mold with a grievance against wider society. If he wasn't in DnD he would be a shrink pushing transgender ideology.

GeekyBugle

#68
January 27, 2022, 06:11:22 PM
Quote from: Zalman on January 27, 2022, 08:51:44 AM
Quote from: Reckall on January 26, 2022, 05:00:11 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 25, 2022, 05:12:26 PM
Into the Spiderverse, tokenized Spider-Man... Hard Pass.

In my book Into the Spiderverse was great.

Not often I agree with Reckall, so worth noting!

Just because Into the Spiderverse has a black spiderman doesn't make it tokenized. The theme wasn't about race at all that I could make out. The movie kind of gets actual diversity right without explicitly making any such claim: it's about entirely different universes. There's a Mecha-spiderman too, and a Toon spiderman. And yes, Peter Parker is in it.

Spider-Ham was (and should remain) a joke.

Just because you liked it doesn't make it not a tokenized character. Do you know the definition of a tokenized character?

Take an established character and change it's sex/race/sexuality and call it a different character. Search Young Rippa in youtube, he has great videos talking about tokenization.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Shasarak

#69
January 27, 2022, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 27, 2022, 06:11:22 PM
Spider-Ham was (and should remain) a joke.

Just because you liked it doesn't make it not a tokenized character. Do you know the definition of a tokenized character?

Peter Porker was great!

Finally the cartoon pigs get representation.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Jaeger

#70
January 27, 2022, 07:29:03 PM Last Edit: January 27, 2022, 07:33:49 PM by Jaeger
Quote from: Pat on January 25, 2022, 05:23:08 PM

You know what SJW warriors do? They call everyone who disagrees with them alt-right, or Nazis, or fascists. They assign them all the negative traits of whoever they consider to be their worst enemy.

Jaeger's doing the same thing, except using SJWs as the universal enemy.
...

Except I'm not.

I have had debates and disagreements with others on this forum - who's opinions were far more liberal in stance than mine. Some of which I consider to be full of critical theory nonsense.

Predictably, neither convinced the other of anything.

Yet somehow we managed to disagree with each other and go our separate ways in peace.

So you are painting with a bit of a broad brush here...


to bring things back on track:
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 25, 2022, 07:54:14 AM
I know that I'm opening up a can of worms here, but do we know what percentage of WotC's  D&D  sales are coming from 5E and what percentage has been coming from the sale of their back catalog as PDFs?

It's about 2:1.

Magic makes a little more than twice as much as D&D last time I looked. (2020 numbers I think...)

IMHO the big indicator for the direction of WOTC & specifically D&D; is who are they are going to replace Chris Cocks with?

Will it be some one from the MTG side or D&D side of WOTC?

"The envious are not satisfied with equality; they secretly yearn for superiority and revenge."

GeekyBugle

#71
January 27, 2022, 07:58:34 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on January 27, 2022, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 27, 2022, 06:11:22 PM
Spider-Ham was (and should remain) a joke.

Just because you liked it doesn't make it not a tokenized character. Do you know the definition of a tokenized character?

Peter Porker was great!

Finally the cartoon pigs get representation.

It was a great joke. For anthropomorphic animals as superheroes DC did it first and did it better.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

RandyB

#72
January 27, 2022, 08:52:52 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 27, 2022, 07:58:34 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on January 27, 2022, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 27, 2022, 06:11:22 PM
Spider-Ham was (and should remain) a joke.

Just because you liked it doesn't make it not a tokenized character. Do you know the definition of a tokenized character?

Peter Porker was great!

Finally the cartoon pigs get representation.

It was a great joke. For anthropomorphic animals as superheroes DC did it first and did it better.

Captain Carrot and the Amazing Zoo Crew FTW!

GeekyBugle

#73
January 27, 2022, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: RandyB on January 27, 2022, 08:52:52 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 27, 2022, 07:58:34 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on January 27, 2022, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 27, 2022, 06:11:22 PM
Spider-Ham was (and should remain) a joke.

Just because you liked it doesn't make it not a tokenized character. Do you know the definition of a tokenized character?

Peter Porker was great!

Finally the cartoon pigs get representation.

It was a great joke. For anthropomorphic animals as superheroes DC did it first and did it better.

Captain Carrot and the Amazing Zoo Crew FTW!

Damn right!
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Omega

#74
January 28, 2022, 02:19:14 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 27, 2022, 07:56:15 AM
Quote from: Innocent Smith on January 27, 2022, 07:31:29 AM
Quote from: Omega on January 26, 2022, 03:08:26 PM
Quote from: S'mon on January 26, 2022, 02:59:45 PM

I don't know if this has anything to do with Wokeness, but his Sage/Twitter answers do often seem to make special effort to be bad/perverse.

This started long before any SJW hints and is very noticeable sometimes. And it is very obviously not because of his proclaimed different playing style.

Someone had a list of some of the more WTF answers but cant find it now. But the "Only one hour of continuous combat can break a long rest" still stands out as poster child for something being seriously the fuck wrong.
Does the average dungeon even contain an hour of total combat encounters? In my experience, assuming 1 turn is about 6 seconds, the average combat encounter lasts about 30 seconds. That's 120 combat encounters per hour. It's a "technically" valid reading of the rules, and to be fair any combination of different strenuous activities would count against the hour, but it'd be absurd for him to not at least advise against doing it that way, since he's supposed to be offering sage advice. It's kinda in the name.
Depends on the dungeon. I know when I ran Caverns of Quasqueton it took multiple days for the party to clear it to their satisfaction.

Admittedly, this also included salvaging as much of the furnishings as possible to sell off, and plotting to murder the architect.

No, in this case he meant specifically if a long rest was in action then there was no way of breaking it short of continuous non-stop combat for one whole hour.
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