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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2017, 01:20:49 PM »
Well, Mornard, one additional thing you appear to share with Frank....both of you seem ridiculously overzealous about demanding people who weren't there like you tongue your peehole. You both tend to get really bent out of shape when said peehole-tonguing doesn't materialize nearly as frequently or in the quantities you had expected. Times just ain't what they ought to be, eh?
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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2017, 01:46:38 PM »
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Actually, there's a LOT more to it than some 'mild mockery'. Details have emerged today that show Frank sending at least one batshit-crazy private message the likes of which would earn a permaban on almost any rpg forum. The DF mods confirmed it was indeed from Frank. Kind of sad actually to see someone that once was at the top of the gaming world turn out to be just another raging lunatic with flecks of spittle on his keyboard. Whither that Kickstart now?

http://knights-n-knaves.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14851


Frank's message to EOTB http://knights-n-knaves.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14851#p233698 was not acceptable, no matter how annoying EOTB is. I can definitely see why Steve had to ban him.

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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2017, 01:48:25 PM »
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I know and like Frank, I think EOTB (before this) is a shitnozzle.

And you know, 30+ years of people ragging on you gets wearying.  I'm only surprised that Frank, Tim, Jim, et al, have even bothered trying out gaming again.

There's good reason Dave Trampier disappeared.  There is a high enough percentage of ass-weasels in the gaming community to make it utterly unpleasant.

Ayup. Have to say I'm with Mike on this. DF has been, in my opinion, very disrespectful of the folks from TSR these last few years that posted on their message Forums with Gary, and even after Gary was gone. The former TSR folks and old guard have went out of their way to make themselves available to answer every legit and stupid question posted over there, although admittedly, not always being polite with their responses. I'm not always polite in my responses, and have no trouble outing retards who really want to be retarded, and do retarded stuff like, on purpose like. Being older, I don't even want to make time for such folks anymore.

Yes, Franks response was not appropriate, He probably waited waaaaaay too long to make a response to the stupidity that was going on over there, which should be factored in. Also, pretty sure the reason a private message is marked as a PM, is so the folks that are having the disagreement can privately resolve their disagreement, or not, ...the key here being private message, so EOTB is completely out of order in reposting a private message publicly, on another message board. To me, that only proves Frank's claim that he's being harassed by those douchebags. So if Steve over at Dragonsfoot was really interested in being impartial and fair, and all, he would permaban EOTB from Dragonsfoot as well. ...just 'sayin. .. And no, speaking your mind should never be a bannable offense on a public message forum, otherwise free speech dies, and then guess what happens next?

Also, isn't EOTB really just an acronym for "End of The Board" one of those stupid and inane little inside jokes made by a puerile and infantile gamer, with that subtle insulting style made famous by the douche nozzle gamers that frequent the K&K Alehouse as well as Circvs Maximvs. Look like they succeeded in doing some serious damage to DF. Have tried really hard to stay away from that crowd over the years, and here they are ...disturbing my peace again, and messing with Frank Mentzer to boot.
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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2017, 01:58:51 PM »
You poor man, I have every sympathy.  How dare those evil K&KA and Circvs Maximvs types keep doing this to you with their subtle insulting style?
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2017, 02:07:27 PM »
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You poor man, I have every sympathy.  How dare those evil KKA and Circvs Maximvs types keep doing this to you with their subtle insulting style?


Fake sympathy gets you exactly nowhere, however is duly noted.
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« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2017, 02:26:12 PM »
I owe Mr. Mentzer my love for this hobby. The red box is where I got started. I appreciate that people have different views and I also appreciate how creators might want some respect for what they've contributed to the mix. I'm not planning on tonguing any peeholes but I don't have a problem laying down some respect for those folks whose works provided me with entertainment, fun and much joy. Also, forum drama is hardly a useful measure of someone's value to humanity. The internet is a cesspool of mostly anonymous trolling with an occasional break of meaningful conversation, pertinent information or lovingly biased news. I think perhaps we need to take each other less seriously. It's easy to get our feelings hurt when really the other poster across The Cloud(tm) is just being silly or poking a jab at us. For fucks sake playing and making games is supposed to be fun! Why do people let the internet afflict butt-hurt? Just relax. Be yourself. Love what you love. Do what you do.
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« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2017, 02:31:36 PM »
"This is the biggest pan-industry project in 30 years" is pretty amusing, though. Other than that, too much detail for me to bother reading more since I have no interest in the project or the people. Good luck to him, though.

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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2017, 03:14:23 PM »
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"This is the biggest pan-industry project in 30 years" is pretty amusing, though. Other than that, too much detail for me to bother reading more since I have no interest in the project or the people. Good luck to him, though.

There may be some hyperbole but what sales spiel doesn't have that. As the writer of my gateway D&D I, more than curious to see what he produces. Especially if it's as multi system as he suggests.

As for DF he's better off without that site and given how few designers still post there he's not alone.
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« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2017, 03:43:37 PM »
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You poor man, I have every sympathy.  How dare those evil K&KA and Circvs Maximvs types keep doing this to you with their subtle insulting style?


That's quite rich, coming from a K&K Klansman who is also a mod on DF. See, when I mocked one of your fellow Alehouse Assholes on DF in a very similar way, I was treated to a temp-ban for a "personal attack", followed by a cringing e-mail from the head honcho admitting that he lied and there was no "personal attack". Maybe you should temp-ban yourself for this "personal attack".

I don't condone Mentzer's PM (and have already ridiculed him for it), but while it's commendable DF didn't just roll over for him, it's not commendable if you and other mods roll over for the K&K Klan.
Jesus Fucking Christ, is this guy honestly that goddamned stupid? He can't understand the plot of a Star Wars film? We're not talking about "Rashomon" here, for fuck's sake. The plot is as linear as they come. If anything, the film tries too hard to fill in all the gaps. This guy must be a flaming retard.  --Mike Wong on Red Letter Moron's review of The Phantom Menace

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« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2017, 03:53:30 PM »
Yay, forum wars!


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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2017, 06:25:16 PM »
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That's quite rich, coming from a K&K Klansman who is also a mod on DF. See, when I mocked one of your fellow Alehouse Assholes on DF in a very similar way, I was treated to a temp-ban for a "personal attack", followed by a cringing e-mail from the head honcho admitting that he lied and there was no "personal attack". Maybe you should temp-ban yourself for this "personal attack".

Equating the Knights n Knaves Alehouse with the Ku Klux Klan is hilarious, isn't it.
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« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2017, 06:29:34 PM »
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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2017, 07:16:18 PM »
I will give Frank Mentzer the benefit of the doubt. Who hasn't  cooked off on a forum before? Frank I have heard good things about Dragons' foot not so much.

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« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2017, 07:32:50 PM »
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I will give Frank Mentzer the benefit of the doubt. Who hasn't  cooked off on a forum before? Frank I have heard good things about Dragons' foot not so much.



It was pretty cool 15 years ago. Before the K&K Klan showed up and ruined it

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« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2017, 09:44:50 PM »
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Equating the Knights n Knaves Alehouse with the Ku Klux Klan is hilarious, isn't it.


I thought so.

I considered just doing the lazy response and throwing your own horseshit back in your face like this:

You poor man, I have every sympathy. How dare that evil Elfdart keep doing this to you with his genius wit!

But that's much too easy.

To mock one poster for being thin-skinned and unable to take scorn and ridicule, then get all trembly over a silly nickname I gave your little clique shows that self-awareness really isn't your strong suit. I'm tempted to ridicule you more, but judging from the plangent tone of your response, I may have hurt your feelings and I would never want to do something like that. I hope you'll accept my apology with all the sincerity I offer it with.
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