is anyone else excited about this book, like a little kid in a candy store? :D
Quote from: BOZis anyone else excited about this book, like a little kid in a candy store? :D
For someone who is not really in the loop at the moment, what is it?
Quote from: KrishnathFor someone who is not really in the loop at the moment, what is it?
It's a monster books like the Draconomicon only for Fiends. Presumably Demons and other Abyssal natives.
Quote from: KrishnathFor someone who is not really in the loop at the moment, what is it?
ooh boy... :) it's looking really nice to me. i think there's a link on amazon somewhere, if not wotc. written by Erik Mona and James Jacobs, who of course are responsible for the Demonomicon articles in Dragon mag.
Quote from: AcinonyxIt's a monster books like the Draconomicon only for Fiends. Presumably Demons and other Abyssal natives.
Interresting.
Considering I have the other books in this series (Draconomicon, Libiris Morits, and Lords of Madness), and use them profusely, then yes, I am very much interrested. I also find in intriguing that exactly one month after its release, they're releasing the fourth monster manual. Personally, I would rather have had that they released a revised version of the MM2 with a couple of monsters ported over from
Monsters of Faerûn™. But alas, such is not the case.
Anyone have any idea what creatures, prestige classes, feats, and/or spells can be found in said book? It is obvious that the tome will contain at least one chapter devoted the Tanar'ri, but I would not be surprised if it also includes a chapter on the Demonweb pits and the fiends that call it home. The book will most likely also contain information of the different archfiends of the abyss, such as Grazz't, Demogorgon, and Orcus.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786939192/sr=8-1/qid=1141414216/ref=sr_1_1/103-8268578-0361400?%5Fencoding=UTF8
pretty sure that there is a preview of some sort on WotC somewhere, but as you know my workplace blocks that site.
someone posted the text from said preview not long ago, and i'll see if i can track that down. yes, you can expect more info on Orcus, Graz'zt, and Demogorgon - i can damn near guarantee that. Demonweb pits is likely to be described, as are the realms of other demon lords. the molydeus is very likely to be in the book. Erik Mona has given a lot of cryptic hints, so one can never be truly sure of what's in there until someone gets an advance copy and spills the beans. ;)
MMIV is likely to suck (i'll at least look at it once before declaring this for certain), but i feel exactly the opposite about FC1:HotA. :) in fact, this is the only WotC book scheduled for 2006 that i am actually excited about.
Krish, have you seen the Demonomicon articles? so far they have done Pazuzu, Fraz-Urb'luu, Zuggtomy, and Baphomet.
Google cache solved that problem for me:
The comprehensive sourcebook of demons in the D&D world.
Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss is a comprehensive sourcebook covering the most dangerous (and popular) fiends in the Dungeons & Dragons cosmology: demons. It provides detailed information about the powers, tactics, and organization of the forces of the Abyss -- both those covered in the Monster Manual and entirely new foes. In addition, this book provides new rules, feats, tactics, spells, and equipment for characters who battle fiends. Extensive story and campaign elements add dimension to playing or fighting creatures of this type. Included is extensive information on the layers of the Abyss and the ruling demon lords, demonic possession, and how to use demons in a campaign.
Quote from: BOZKrish, have you seen the Demonomicon articles? so far they have done Pazuzu, Fraz-Urb'luu, Zuggtomy, and Baphomet.
I love those articles. I just got the Baphomet issue yesterday too.
Quote from: BOZKrish, have you seen the Demonomicon articles? so far they have done Pazuzu, Fraz-Urb'luu, Zuggtomy, and Baphomet.
Ah, no I haven't, It is not really in my budget to buy Dragon. Hell, I can't even afford to buy the books I want without saving for months. I had to save for three months just to buy Races of the Dragon (good book btw, I don't like the dragonborn, but the rest of the book is gold plated platinum, definetly the best of the race books).
As for MMIV, I shall most likely buy it, I just hope they add least add *one* true dragon, is that to much to ask? I would even settle for any of the ones they've released on their website (I still like my version of the steel dragon better). On that note, did I ever mention that I made a true dragon treatment for the dragon turtle? I had to create a new breathweapon table to do it, but it actually works!
if you get a chance to pick up any of the back issues (#329, 333, 337, 341) at a discount, then you should. they're quite well done, and have been touted as an example of what's to come in FC1. a much better presentation for demon lords than what you see in BoVD.
Quote from: BOZif you get a chance to pick up any of the back issues (#329, 333, 337, 341) at a discount, then you should. they're quite well done, and have been touted as an example of what's to come in FC1. a much better presentation for demon lords than what you see in BoVD.
Doubtful that will happen, as the only shop to carry them at a decent price have stopped carrying RPG's and thus no longer carries Dragon. The other shop where I can buy them they don't carry back issues, and take almost three times as much per issue compared to what the old shop did. :(
The place where I buy my RPG products now does not carry Dragon, but on the other hand, the books are cheaper. Hell, 26€ is a pretty good price for
Races of the Dragon, when you consider that the price includes taxes. :D
Color me very interested in FCI:HotH. Jacobs and Mona tend to write some really good roleplaying material, and it will be very nice to have a good solid sourcebook on demons available.
I find that in my games I tend towards Aberrations mostly, so having a good solid sourcebook alternative might really get my creative juices pumping for a different kind of campaign.
Lords of Madness for you, then. :)
I am very interested. I really liked Lords of Madness & Libiris Morits. :D
Quote from: BOZLords of Madness for you, then. :)
I treasure it, and always wish for more opportunities to use it. I really like the Tsochar, and the Aboleth and Illithid chapters are also extrordinarily excellent. For some reason i've neer been a big fan of Beholders. Grell make interesting occasional monsters for random encounters, but my real love is for the mastermind villians. Neogi are also an old favorite of mine from the
Spelljammer days, and it warmed my heart to see them given such a solid treatment in a 3.5 supplement.
If the Fiendish Codex is up to the standard of
Lords of Madness, I will be extrordinarily happy.
well, James Jacobs did have a share of the writing duties for LoM, so...
Quote from: BOZwell, James Jacobs did have a share of the writing duties for LoM, so...
That's actually one of the reasons I have such high hopes for FCI. Between
Libris Mortis and the articles he's written for Dragon Magazine, JJ strikes me as a top-notch writer. Mona has done a great job editing both magazines, in my oh-so-humble opinion ;) , and I really enjoyed The Whispering Cairn from Dungeon 124. Two writers, both of whom I already consider to be good writers, joining forces for the kind of book i'm already inclined to enjoy?
Yes, I have high hopes indeed.
I'm looking forward to this one as well as ToM.
I'm certain to pick this one up and use it. Demons are always fun. :D
indeed! :D and if the level of detail is as good as promised, then it shouldn't fail to deliver.
Quote from: BOZis anyone else excited about this book, like a little kid in a candy store? :D
I'm as giddy as a school boy.
one of the coolest things was when someone posted a link to the Amazon preview on ENW, and the Erik Mona and James Jacobs posted in the thread, hinting that they would be looking around ENW for suggestions and ideas. i went and dug up all the lore i could find, including stuff like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_lord_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29
unfortunately, no one came around talking about FC2 ahead of time. :(
I look forward to this Hordes of the Abyss book, but only if it is closer to $30 than $40. I went to Schuler's (a local independant book store that has a small D&D section) yesterday looking for the new Tome of Magic because the tie-in article in Dragon #341 made it sound quite nifty. A fairly detailed look-through at the bookstore confirms it is indeed nifty, but it is also $40, so I bought the Manual of the Planes ($30) instead.
Quote from: KrishnathAs for MMIV, I shall most likely buy it, I just hope they add least add *one* true dragon, is that to much to ask? I would even settle for any of the ones they've released on their website (I still like my version of the steel dragon better). On that note, did I ever mention that I made a true dragon treatment for the dragon turtle? I had to create a new breathweapon table to do it, but it actually works!
I'm not sure if MM4 will have any true dragons, but there will certainly be draconic creatures in it. This
is WOTC's "Year of the Dragon" after all, and they have said that there'll be lots of "Spawn of Tiamat" in MM4.