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Female 5E D&D Stats: Let REEEEEEDOM Ring

Started by ThePoxBox, July 13, 2019, 01:13:40 PM

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S'mon

Quote from: ThePoxBox;10956221. For females, yes. Feminine muscles are more efficient. Average females have more endurance than the average man, as well as higher pain tolerance

This doesn't fit with what I saw doing mixed sex army training, or what the instructors said - they said female recruits were more prone to injury, and that's what I saw. You get plenty of recent combat-deployment accounts that support this too. Women might in D&D terms have +1 to CON save, but fewer hit points.

Doom

Indeed, this seems only useful for folk who like sticking their reproductive organs into the nests of aggressively stinging insects.
(taken during hurricane winds)

A nice education blog.

Theory of Games

Quote from: S'mon;1095630This doesn't fit with what I saw doing mixed sex army training, or what the instructors said - they said female recruits were more prone to injury, and that's what I saw. You get plenty of recent combat-deployment accounts that support this too. Women might in D&D terms have +1 to CON save, but fewer hit points.
Same here, using Marine Corps male-to-female standards.

Women on average are physically- weaker than men.

Gygax nailed it, for the most part.

I've met some strong/tough women but, the strong/tough men I've met can easily handle them.
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ThePoxBox

Quote from: S'mon;1095630This doesn't fit with what I saw doing mixed sex army training, or what the instructors said - they said female recruits were more prone to injury, and that's what I saw. You get plenty of recent combat-deployment accounts that support this too. Women might in D&D terms have +1 to CON save, but fewer hit points.

Interesting feedback. I would wonder if those injuries were mostly strength related? Full pack hauling is brutal for even most men. I can't imagine what it's like for women.

ThePoxBox

Quote from: S'mon;1095629What's the point? You don't want any Xena PCs/NPCs?

I would think Amazonian could be a possible subrace, but not in the setting I envision.

ThePoxBox

Quote from: Doom;1095633Indeed, this seems only useful for folk who like sticking their reproductive organs into the nests of aggressively stinging insects.

Can't say I follow

Spinachcat

I'm always confused by demands of realism in a fantasy game.

If I'm playing an elf casting magic spells in a world with dragons and demons, I don't see why I would be concerned with any aspects of realism.

Also, RPGing is all about escapism. If I want to be a spell casting elf, I can't see why someone else can't play Conana the Barbarianess.

It's not a dig on the OP. It's my same stance as when gamers complain D&D doesn't match medieval history.


Quote from: camazotz;1095602Hey, maybe you can do a "5E adaptation" of FATAL, I bet it would be a real hit!

5e FATAL done as a super serious but bizarre parody RPG would sell just so people could own a copy of the madness.

Spinachcat

But here's the joke.

Concerns about "realism" in RPGs have been constant since 1974. Lots of people don't agree with me and apparently want realism in their RPGs.

Thus, there is a market. I understand RPGPundit has been successful with his Lion & Dragon "medieval authentic" RPG.

My advice to the OP? Ignore my opinion on realism in RPGs and anyone who ain't into RPG realism. Gather around ye all the RPG Realism Wanters that you can and research all the myriad RPG Realism threads, blogs and other discussions as you can. Then, go full fucking force with RPG realism while somehow figuring out how to balance that realism vs. playability.

Then publish it and market it to your people.

And when Twitter mob screeches (and they will), be ready to stand and tell them to fuck off.  

I highly suspect your people aren't fans of the outrage mob and the online shitfest would actually garner you sales. And when DriveThruRPG bans your game and RPG.net bans discussion of your game, be ready in advance to use that as marketing fodder as well.

Shasarak

Quote from: Spinachcat;1095642I'm always confused by demands of realism in a fantasy game.

If I'm playing an elf casting magic spells in a world with dragons and demons, I don't see why I would be concerned with any aspects of realism.

Also, RPGing is all about escapism. If I want to be a spell casting elf, I can't see why someone else can't play Conana the Barbarianess.

It's not a dig on the OP. It's my same stance as when gamers complain D&D doesn't match medieval history.

I guess when I talk about realism in an RPG world it is not the same as a highschool physics student talking about Giants breaking the cube square rule, it is more about the linternal logic of the world.  For example Dwarves being inherently non-magical so therefore not being able to be Wizards.
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Spinachcat

I wouldn't call that realism, but instead "internal game logic" like how movies aren't realistic, but need to maintain their own internal logic.

But maybe that's just semantics.

Warboss Squee

Sure, give the internet assholes new material to work with.

Aglondir

What is Reedom?

Not poking fun, I make typos all the time. I'm assuming you meant Freedom, but I don't understand how your proposed rules are liberating, or what they are liberating the players from. Or am I reading too much into the title?

Spinachcat

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1095653Sure, give the internet assholes new material to work with.

Yes, and manipulate them as a marketing tool.


Quote from: Aglondir;1095657What is Reedom?

REEEE! is a meme. Frequently associated with the Twitter outrage mobs.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reeeeeee

David Johansen

#28
Quote from: ThePoxBox;1095581I'm not banking on this being a commercial success, but being a very different take on D&D 5E where demihumans are strange, triune monotheism is the prevailing religion of the kingdom where the first release of the campaign material focuses, and care is taken to make things that are interesting to myself and my friends. We are interested in gender differences, many threats needing to be overcome with rituals and special substances (less monster homogeneity overall,) and developing core mechanics that give deeper gameplay around solving mysteries, dealing with political intrigue, and rules for business ownership and management.

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Aglondir

Quote from: Spinachcat;1095658REEEE! is a meme. Frequently associated with the Twitter outrage mobs.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reeeeeee

Thanks, makes sense now.