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Favorite Retroclone?

Started by Silverlion, July 06, 2012, 12:33:23 AM

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Silverlion

July 06, 2012, 12:33:23 AM
So what is your favorite retroclone? Tell me about it, what makes it your favorite What is good about it? What would you change about it?
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July 06, 2012, 12:49:09 AM Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 12:56:41 AM by thedungeondelver
Quote from: Silverlion;557063So what is your favorite retroclone? Tell me about it, what makes it your favorite What is good about it? What would you change about it?

OSRIC.  It put AD&D rules at easy reach for lots of people.

Were I to change it I'd put in more of that Bill Silvey's wonderful work!

I kid.  No, I'd add back in monks and bards, artifacts, name-specific demons & devils.  Hell maybe even Psionics.
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July 06, 2012, 01:13:10 AM
BFRPG. It's a great combo of B/X and 3e.
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July 06, 2012, 01:22:07 AM
Swords & Wizardry Core if I am going to implement D&D for something as it closest thing to an ur-D&D*

OSRIC if I am going to play D&D mostly by the book As AD&D 1st is the best of the older editions.

*Why i don't consider white box to be ur-D&D? Because what people recognize as D&D only came into being when the Greyhawk supplement was released. With that being said folks should give OD&D without any supplements a try. (S&W White Box) despite the lack of many of the later mechanics it works surprisingly well and the way hit points, character levels, and monsters interplay give it a unique feel not found in later editions and supplements.

Benoist

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July 06, 2012, 02:02:12 AM Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 02:05:17 AM by Benoist
OSRIC. AD&D 1e in one single book. And the PDF is free. What's not to like?

Melan

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July 06, 2012, 02:05:46 AM
If it is about clones, Swords&Wizardry Complete is what I would go with. A nice compromise between OD&D's simple elegance and AD&D's class selection.

Otherwise, I've already got a non-clone game that works for me.
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July 06, 2012, 02:15:48 AM
They're all D&D to me.
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July 06, 2012, 04:15:11 AM
Labyrinth Lord. It is the closest to B/X D&D and has a huge potential for expansions along those same lines. As a game, it is functionally elegant.
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The Butcher

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July 06, 2012, 07:25:28 AM
If we're talking straight-up clones, it's Labyrinth Lord. It hews the closest to my favorite TSR-era edition of D&D (BECMI/RC), and it's even got add-ons for AD&D 1e (AEC) and OD&D (OEC). Though I am also a huge, huge fan of Swords & Wizardry Core (great game for getting your BECMI or B/X fix) and Complete (excellent option for a quasi-AD&D 1e game).

Non-clone-wise, ACKS comes closest to my Platonic ideal of D&D right now.

AnthonyRoberson

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July 06, 2012, 08:10:47 AM
Quote from: The Butcher;557115If we're talking straight-up clones, it's Labyrinth Lord. It hews the closest to my favorite TSR-era edition of D&D (BECMI/RC), and it's even got add-ons for AD&D 1e (AEC) and OD&D (OEC). Though I am also a huge, huge fan of Swords & Wizardry Core (great game for getting your BECMI or B/X fix) and Complete (excellent option for a quasi-AD&D 1e game).

Non-clone-wise, ACKS comes closest to my Platonic ideal of D&D right now.

My sentiments exactly. Labyrinth Lord is my favorite straight-up clone. ACKS is my ideal version of D&D and Dungeon Crawl Classics is my new favorite metal version of D&D. :)

Tetsubo

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July 06, 2012, 08:25:37 AM
I thought Mazes & Minotaurs was cool. I could never play a campaign with it but I think it might be fun for a one-shot. Stars Without Number has awesome psionics rules. But for the most part retroclones leave me cold. I own all of the original books I want and I wouldn't ever play them again.

languagegeek

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July 06, 2012, 10:22:42 AM
I'm lovin' Labyrinth Lord right now: I'm DMing a bunch of guys who were too young at the time for B/X and it's great to have PDF- and hardcover-LL available to everyone at the table.

Probably most excited to try out DCC.

I'm also pushing Microlite74 towards a d20 gamer who wants to DM a familiar base-mechanic without the hassle (no skills no feats) and with an old school feel.

Bobloblah

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July 06, 2012, 10:34:07 AM
Labyrinth Lord for me, particularly with the Advanced Edition Companion, making it something of a hybrid between Basic and AD&D. Haven't picked up ACKS yet, though, and I have a feeling it might eclipse LL. I was always a big fan of the BEC part of BECMI...

Quote from: languagegeek;557135I'm DMing a bunch of guys who were too young at the time for B/X and it's great to have PDF- and hardcover-LL available to everyone at the table.

There's a hardcover?
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languagegeek

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July 06, 2012, 10:38:00 AM
Quote from: Bobloblah;557139There's a hardcover?
It's for sale on Lulu. That and the Advanced Companion. They're really nice.

Bobloblah

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July 06, 2012, 10:41:12 AM
Quote from: languagegeek;557140It's for sale on Lulu. That and the Advanced Companion. They're really nice.

Ah, thanks! Yeah, I mentioned above that I'm a fan of the AEC. I picked them up in my FLGS, however, and there was never a hardcover copy available.
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Bobloblah

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