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FantasyCraft hate thread.

Started by B.T., January 25, 2012, 06:39:21 PM

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3rik

#15
January 26, 2012, 09:34:35 AM
I really feel sorry for all of you who actually bought this. Has the game gotten any favourable reviews?

I recall GameGeeks being pretty positive about it:
http://youtu.be/KbOs6UwCxPk
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misterguignol

#16
January 26, 2012, 09:51:31 AM
This always seemed like a game aimed at people who like to make characters for hours on end and talk about D&D on forums without actually ever having to play D&D.

Benoist

#17
January 26, 2012, 10:09:25 AM
Somebody summon Caesar Slaad to have an epic flamewar about this.

Claudius

#18
January 26, 2012, 10:22:14 AM
This is how reviews should be written.

I don't care much if a reviewer hates (or loves) the game, what I do care about, is why. And this thread gives lots of examples of how things work in Fantasycraft, so I can make an informed decision myself if this game is for me.

Congratulations, BT, this is a great thread.
Grając zaś w grę komputerową, być może zdarzyło się wam zapragnąć zejść z wyznaczonej przez autorów ścieżki i, miast zabić smoka i ożenić się z księżniczką, zabić księżniczkę i ożenić się ze smokiem.

Nihil sine magno labore vita dedit mortalibus.

And by your sword shall you live and serve thy brother, and it shall come to pass when you have dominion, you will break Jacob's yoke from your neck.

Dios, que buen vasallo, si tuviese buen señor!

Claudius

#19
January 26, 2012, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: One Horse Town;509351In fact, in theory, i liked how they handled a lot of things. Taken in isolation any one of them could have been a decent addition to an OGL game, but taken as a whole it's pretty overwhelming IMO.
This is exactly what I feel about Burning Wheel. Taken in isolation I like a lot of its subsystems and the ideas behind them. Taken as a whole, I can't help thinking "What the fuck :eek: . This is unplayable".
Grając zaś w grę komputerową, być może zdarzyło się wam zapragnąć zejść z wyznaczonej przez autorów ścieżki i, miast zabić smoka i ożenić się z księżniczką, zabić księżniczkę i ożenić się ze smokiem.

Nihil sine magno labore vita dedit mortalibus.

And by your sword shall you live and serve thy brother, and it shall come to pass when you have dominion, you will break Jacob's yoke from your neck.

Dios, que buen vasallo, si tuviese buen señor!

Black Vulmea

#20
January 26, 2012, 11:06:57 AM
Isn't this the fantasy version of 2e Spycraft?

As the Emperor said, "Too many notes."
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crkrueger

#21
January 26, 2012, 02:01:04 PM
The Good News: FantasyCraft has innovative, at times, brilliant mechanics to add to d20.

The Bad News: There are 12 per page.

The Ugly News: A huge chunk are metagame and/or new school/narrative inspired.
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Aos

#22
January 26, 2012, 02:02:31 PM
Awesome post, B.T.
You are posting in a troll thread.

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Imp

#23
January 26, 2012, 02:09:09 PM
As someone who has occasionally thought "FantasyCraft, I should check that out sometime" I am pretty well convinced by this review. Also I need aspirin now.

GeekEclectic

#24
January 26, 2012, 02:16:39 PM
The spellcasting thing isn't handwaved at all. You know a number of spells at any given time equal to your spellcasting skill ranks + your wisdom score + any bonus spells granted by class features or feats. You divide them up however you want amongst the 10 circles(0 - 9), though you're stuck with what you choose. No switching them out later, so if you plan on playing to higher levels you should grab some higher circle spells now, though you'll have a good 15+ spellcasting points and possibly some Wis increases and maybe a feat or two to spend on new spells later.

Yes, this means that if you're only playing a one-shot or short campaign that you can load up on lower circle spells. But Fantasy Craft is incredibly hard to break using the rules as written, so this won't make you overpowered or anything.
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crkrueger

#25
January 26, 2012, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Benoist;509369Somebody summon Caesar Slaad to have an epic flamewar about this.

AD&D Trivia - Assuming Caesar Slaad is a Red Slaad, like his avatar, what spell/spells will allow you to summon him?
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Benoist

#26
January 26, 2012, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;509507AD&D Trivia - Assuming Caesar Slaad is a Red Slaad, like his avatar, what spell/spells will allow you to summon him?

Cacodemon?

Rincewind1

#27
January 26, 2012, 02:37:05 PM
In 3e, that'd be Lesser Planar Binding, or Planar Binding.
Quote from: Benoist;509516Cacodemon?
Are Slaads demons in AD&D? I didn't yet check in OSRIC that.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Benoist

#28
January 26, 2012, 03:00:18 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;509519Are Slaads demons in AD&D? I didn't yet check in OSRIC that.

I think they're considered as demon types, yes.

arminius

#29
January 26, 2012, 03:13:45 PM
I didn't think the game was all that bad, based on starting to read and then (increasingly) skimming. But it was more complexity than I'd like for what it promises, which is, after all, a version of D&D.

I especially see nothing wrong with toolboxes, and the flexible character interpretations based on class were kind of interesting.

However, I don't have time for this. My copy's for sale.
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