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Author Topic: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes  (Read 6656 times)

MeganovaStella

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2022, 03:02:39 PM »
Exalted's setting, Creation, is really fucking good. Really, really good. But the system sucks ass!

So, I ask a question. What if...Exalted's setting used your favorite system? Would it be better to play? Worse? Do tell!

I wouldn't even bother to play it because Exalted's setting is designed for people with unfulfilled power fantasies. Exalted and its setting is to most RPGs what rape is to sex. I do not find it really, really good.
Threadcrapping from the guy that constantly recommends the dullest setting ever made: Traveller. You know, a bunch of spqce retirees wandering through the underdeveloped vast nothingness of the Third Imperium in their space RV. That's Jeffy's fantasy, so don't expect much from him when it comes to settings with any flavor other than 70s nostalgia.

Oh, NappyDazed, you know me so well. Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

> immediately brings up wifebeating in a thread about a fantasy setting

> after insulting the OP

Don't people get threadbanned for this?

Thankfully, not here.

Here, you may post that my behavior towards you has been that of a spoiled child whose head has been shoved so far up my ass that I will never see daylight. You may say that I am bully, a coward, a festering piece of shit, or a leftist democrat whose taste in games is equivalent to sex with animals. You could even call me a Storygamer or a Social Justice Warrior without repercussion.

This is Free Speech at its finest.

so can i call you racial slurs and dox you and then proceed to come to your house irl so i can call you racial slurs there? if this site doesn't allow this it's a coward site tbh
« Last Edit: July 03, 2022, 03:04:39 PM by MeganovaStella »

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2022, 03:11:45 PM »
Exalted's setting, Creation, is really fucking good. Really, really good. But the system sucks ass!

So, I ask a question. What if...Exalted's setting used your favorite system? Would it be better to play? Worse? Do tell!

I wouldn't even bother to play it because Exalted's setting is designed for people with unfulfilled power fantasies. Exalted and its setting is to most RPGs what rape is to sex. I do not find it really, really good.
Threadcrapping from the guy that constantly recommends the dullest setting ever made: Traveller. You know, a bunch of spqce retirees wandering through the underdeveloped vast nothingness of the Third Imperium in their space RV. That's Jeffy's fantasy, so don't expect much from him when it comes to settings with any flavor other than 70s nostalgia.

Oh, NappyDazed, you know me so well. Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

> immediately brings up wifebeating in a thread about a fantasy setting

> after insulting the OP

Don't people get threadbanned for this?

Thankfully, not here.

Here, you may post that my behavior towards you has been that of a spoiled child whose head has been shoved so far up my ass that I will never see daylight. You may say that I am bully, a coward, a festering piece of shit, or a leftist democrat whose taste in games is equivalent to sex with animals. You could even call me a Storygamer or a Social Justice Warrior without repercussion.

This is Free Speech at its finest.

so can i call you racial slurs and dox you and then proceed to come to your house irl so i can call you racial slurs there? if this site doesn't allow this it's a coward site tbh

Ah, therin lies the rub.

Racial slurs will get you banned. Doxxing will also get you banned.

You have to be creative with your insults here, racial slurs and doxxing are for amateurs. This can and should be a rough place, but it is the best site to find out the truths that will help you about a lot of game systems from people with decades of experience.
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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2022, 03:23:04 PM »
Exalted's setting, Creation, is really fucking good. Really, really good. But the system sucks ass!

So, I ask a question. What if...Exalted's setting used your favorite system? Would it be better to play? Worse? Do tell!

I wouldn't even bother to play it because Exalted's setting is designed for people with unfulfilled power fantasies. Exalted and its setting is to most RPGs what rape is to sex. I do not find it really, really good.
Threadcrapping from the guy that constantly recommends the dullest setting ever made: Traveller. You know, a bunch of spqce retirees wandering through the underdeveloped vast nothingness of the Third Imperium in their space RV. That's Jeffy's fantasy, so don't expect much from him when it comes to settings with any flavor other than 70s nostalgia.

Oh, NappyDazed, you know me so well. Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

> immediately brings up wifebeating in a thread about a fantasy setting

> after insulting the OP

Don't people get threadbanned for this?

Thankfully, not here.

Here, you may post that my behavior towards you has been that of a spoiled child whose head has been shoved so far up my ass that I will never see daylight. You may say that I am bully, a coward, a festering piece of shit, or a leftist democrat whose taste in games is equivalent to sex with animals. You could even call me a Storygamer or a Social Justice Warrior without repercussion.

This is Free Speech at its finest.

so can i call you racial slurs and dox you and then proceed to come to your house irl so i can call you racial slurs there? if this site doesn't allow this it's a coward site tbh

Ah, therin lies the rub.

Racial slurs will get you banned. Doxxing will also get you banned.

You have to be creative with your insults here, racial slurs and doxxing are for amateurs. This can and should be a rough place, but it is the best site to find out the truths that will help you about a lot of game systems from people with decades of experience.

oh okay

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2022, 03:27:20 PM »
Exalted's setting, Creation, is really fucking good. Really, really good. But the system sucks ass!

So, I ask a question. What if...Exalted's setting used your favorite system? Would it be better to play? Worse? Do tell!

I wouldn't even bother to play it because Exalted's setting is designed for people with unfulfilled power fantasies. Exalted and its setting is to most RPGs what rape is to sex. I do not find it really, really good.
Threadcrapping from the guy that constantly recommends the dullest setting ever made: Traveller. You know, a bunch of spqce retirees wandering through the underdeveloped vast nothingness of the Third Imperium in their space RV. That's Jeffy's fantasy, so don't expect much from him when it comes to settings with any flavor other than 70s nostalgia.

Oh, NappyDazed, you know me so well. Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

> immediately brings up wifebeating in a thread about a fantasy setting

> after insulting the OP

Don't people get threadbanned for this?

Thankfully, not here.

Here, you may post that my behavior towards you has been that of a spoiled child whose head has been shoved so far up my ass that I will never see daylight. You may say that I am bully, a coward, a festering piece of shit, or a leftist democrat whose taste in games is equivalent to sex with animals. You could even call me a Storygamer or a Social Justice Warrior without repercussion.

This is Free Speech at its finest.

so can i call you racial slurs and dox you and then proceed to come to your house irl so i can call you racial slurs there? if this site doesn't allow this it's a coward site tbh

Ah, therin lies the rub.

Racial slurs will get you banned. Doxxing will also get you banned.

You have to be creative with your insults here, racial slurs and doxxing are for amateurs. This can and should be a rough place, but it is the best site to find out the truths that will help you about a lot of game systems from people with decades of experience.

oh okay

You’re taking some of this with a lot more grace than I would have, MeganovaStella. Also appreciate that you can recognize the value of Free Speech with minimal, but some, limitations.

Also, I kinda think maybe the racial slurs and doxing rules should be at the top of the site, cuz while irrelevant to me I didn’t know them. Though I did know that in the Pundit sub forum he sometimes had banned literal nazis that mucked about inside his house so to speak, I had heard. Thanks for the heads-up, Jeff.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2022, 03:34:04 PM by KindaMeh »

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2022, 03:40:05 PM »
Also, @MeganovaStella, if you like Exalted 2e and are familiar with the basics of mechanics and lore, you may enjoy Keychain of Creation or other webcomics, since there are a fair number for that edition and even 3e. Such things are not always my cup of tea, especially politically, but since you’re posting in part because you like the setting…

MeganovaStella

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2022, 03:49:04 PM »
Also, @MeganovaStella, if you like Exalted 2e and are familiar with the basics of mechanics and lore, you may enjoy Keychain of Creation or other webcomics, since there are a fair number for that edition and even 3e. Such things are not always my cup of tea, especially politically, but since you’re posting in part because you like the setting…

heard of that, am reading now

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2022, 03:50:10 PM »
Also, @MeganovaStella, if you like Exalted 2e and are familiar with the basics of mechanics and lore, you may enjoy Keychain of Creation or other webcomics, since there are a fair number for that edition and even 3e. Such things are not always my cup of tea, especially politically, but since you’re posting in part because you like the setting…

heard of that, am reading now

Noice.

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2022, 04:01:09 PM »
Also, IDK if it would solve the underlying problem of not having a player group that wants to play Exalted 2e or the like with their original mechanics (though I think folks on this thread have done a good job espousing mechanical alternatives that may work for running the setting with your preferred discord group), but…

 I do know that some places like Spacebattles and other sites that host digital play by post especially along the lines of voting for an audience-played character’s actions, do sometimes or at least did sometimes use Exalted 2e as a mechanical chassis. Though they tended a lot towards setting crossovers at times. Can’t think of any specific good ones to recommend, and I didn’t really follow those threads and that gaming movement, but I coulda sworn it exists.

Not sure if anything in that area’s really on par with say wildbow’s Department Sixty-Four or Lausanne campaign, much less IRL games, though I guess you could always look for filmed or live-streamed sessions and stuff like the Critical Role amateur equivalent.
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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2022, 04:04:39 PM »
heard of that, am reading now

Yeah, Keychain of Creation in my opinion perfectly executes what Exalted wants to be in my opinion. Outside of ending prematurely on a cliffhanger.  :'(

Have you tried playing Godbound? My experiences where mixed.

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2022, 04:14:04 PM »
heard of that, am reading now

Yeah, Keychain of Creation in my opinion perfectly executes what Exalted wants to be in my opinion. Outside of ending prematurely on a cliffhanger.  :'(

Have you tried playing Godbound? My experiences where mixed.

I actually am playing in a Godbound discord server. It's okay, haven't gotten into combat yet.

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2022, 04:21:20 PM »
I actually am playing in a Godbound discord server. It's okay, haven't gotten into combat yet.
I like its default setting more then Exalted(I find Kevins settings write for PC interaction much more then White Wolf), and I in theory like the Words as a power structure. But I have found the combat to not work super well and you need creative PCs and a good GM to manage its worldbuilding elements.

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2022, 05:16:49 PM »
I actually am playing in a Godbound discord server. It's okay, haven't gotten into combat yet.
I like its default setting more then Exalted(I find Kevins settings write for PC interaction much more then White Wolf), and I in theory like the Words as a power structure. But I have found the combat to not work super well and you need creative PCs and a good GM to manage its worldbuilding elements.

yeah, i don't like THAC0.

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2022, 05:34:40 PM »
I actually am playing in a Godbound discord server. It's okay, haven't gotten into combat yet.
I like its default setting more then Exalted(I find Kevins settings write for PC interaction much more then White Wolf), and I in theory like the Words as a power structure. But I have found the combat to not work super well and you need creative PCs and a good GM to manage its worldbuilding elements.

yeah, i don't like THAC0.

I have an irrational attachment to THACO from Baldur’s Gate, Planescape Torment, and Icewind Dale. Also, because its affiliate, AC, was a central part of my first truly codified TTRPG experience, D&D 4e. (Don’t pity me! I can see it in your eyes!)

That said, even I will admit that accuracy tends to be swingy and predicated more on random chance than strategy, skill, and sometimes even build. Which to be fair, randomness can also make outcomes more exciting and less inevitable.

Though I feel it also means that attacks are less meaningful when they land, because if they can land more randomly and build is less of a reliable defense, you have to rely on abstractions like HP more than say injury rolls if you still want combat to happen a lot and the PCs to win a lot. Which can alienate players from the outcome of any one roll or the like.

Exalted and other storytelling system dice pools tend to lessen the effects of chance over build and tactics, in my opinion. That said, I’m still a THACO and AC fan when push comes to shove. It’s an elegant single-roll system. And they’re on top for a reason, arguably.

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2022, 05:47:48 PM »
I actually am playing in a Godbound discord server. It's okay, haven't gotten into combat yet.
I like its default setting more then Exalted(I find Kevins settings write for PC interaction much more then White Wolf), and I in theory like the Words as a power structure. But I have found the combat to not work super well and you need creative PCs and a good GM to manage its worldbuilding elements.

yeah, i don't like THAC0.

Actually, if we’re trying to recommend potential systems for you to run the Exalted setting with…

What kind of combat systems do you most like? Least like?

What about skill systems?

Power and ability systems?

What’s your opinion on social rolls and if social interaction systems should be a thing?


Not trying to overwhelm you with questions, but I do think that with answers we might be able to get a bit closer to your ideal system.

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Re: Exalted's setting with your favorite system: what changes
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2022, 05:57:16 PM »
I actually am playing in a Godbound discord server. It's okay, haven't gotten into combat yet.
I like its default setting more then Exalted(I find Kevins settings write for PC interaction much more then White Wolf), and I in theory like the Words as a power structure. But I have found the combat to not work super well and you need creative PCs and a good GM to manage its worldbuilding elements.

yeah, i don't like THAC0.

Actually, if we’re trying to recommend potential systems for you to run the Exalted setting with…

What kind of combat systems do you most like? Least like?

What about skill systems?

Power and ability systems?

What’s your opinion on social rolls and if social interaction systems should be a thing?


Not trying to overwhelm you with questions, but I do think that with answers we might be able to get a bit closer to your ideal system.

Wait, I’m an idiot. While that may have been a suspected undertone to this thread, it was originally about our own favorite systems being used for Exalted as a thought experiment, right?

In that case, D&D (maybe 3.5 SRD because free things have a special place in my heart, or whatever 2e-setup Planescape Torment used?) fails to capture the vibe. Not modular enough, too class based, and not broad enough powers or ability to individually impact things as much through personal power and competence. Even playing a high level spell caster would be like playing a worse fae who can only do very specific sword and other direct combat shaping. Maybe with a little specialized utility, but again very limited in what can be built and done, and the direct impact of a person’s power and competence more broadly upon society.