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Exalted 3rd discussion

Started by Nexus, August 31, 2014, 07:13:03 PM

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Orphan81

It's very functional....almost bland... It's not offensive and that's good, but it's not exactly wowing either...

It's also very similar to the Legend of the Five Rings 4th edition layout, just sorta with a palette swap.

Mage20 blows it away...
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Millenium

If I was going to predict what the awesome art for this super duper third edition was going to look like I'd probably imagine something like Conan the Barbarian, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Escaflowne, and that godawful 47 Ronin movie mixed in a blender then run through an acid trip. Bold color, bold lines, bold motion and bold design. This is just bland, it could be from any game.

Incidentally are they still using that pic where the Scarlet Empress looks like she only has one leg?

Snowman0147

Looks bland to me.  Look I know some people hate anime, but look at the last two editions.  At least the last two editions were unique.  Hell that art style should be trademark.  This third edition, however, I can't separate it from any other rpg which is a bad thing for rpg art.

AsenRG

Funny enough, I was trying to explain on another forum recently why I think the art of the new edition is among its weakest points. Some people are just raving about the fact that there is a new edition.
Fun fact, the current edition art is something I'd expect to see in a game with an europocentric setting, while Exalted is clearly not such a game.
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Warboss Squee

Quote from: AsenRG;842506Funny enough, I was trying to explain on another forum recently why I think the art of the new edition is among its weakest points. Some people are just raving about the fact that there is a new edition.
Fun fact, the current edition art is something I'd expect to see in a game with an europocentric setting, while Exalted is clearly not such a game.

It should be. It would be unethical for those white developers to base their setting on another culture.

Christopher Brady

Quote from: Snowman0147;842481Looks bland to me.  Look I know some people hate anime, but look at the last two editions.  At least the last two editions were unique.  Hell that art style should be trademark.  This third edition, however, I can't separate it from any other rpg which is a bad thing for rpg art.

As someone who has collected D&D and have the 5e books in front of me, and frankly, I'm finding it hard to see the difference.
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Nexus

IMO, the art I've seen is like everything else about this edition, on a spectrum between leaving me cold and being functional and okay. The art I've seen isn't bad but its particularly striking or original. But art isn't a high priority for me and there's supposedly much more of it.
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AsenRG

Quote from: Warboss Squee;842514It should be. It would be unethical for those white developers to base their setting on another culture.
Even SJWs should be able to give an already existing setting art that reflects it being non-Eurocentric!
Not sure how many of the developers of Exalted fall under this label anyway, and I strongly suspect this is not the reason, anyway.

Quote from: Nexus;842554IMO, the art I've seen is like everything else about this edition, on a spectrum between leaving me cold and being functional and okay. The art I've seen isn't bad but its particularly striking or original. But art isn't a high priority for me and there's supposedly much more of it.
Supposedly yes, but people that have taken a sneak peak at the illegal Exalted comic reported the art style is pretty consistent.
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Warboss Squee

Quote from: AsenRG;844646Even SJWs should be able to give an already existing setting art that reflects it being non-Eurocentric!
Not sure how many of the developers of Exalted fall under this label anyway, and I strongly suspect this is not the reason, anyway.

I was being sarcastic.

As it stands, between the few previews given, the leaked playtest material and the new art preview, I am so entirely underwhelmed that mankind lacks the scientific tools to truly quantify the lack of fucks given.

This is the development version of ripping defeat from the jaws of victory as far as I'm concerned.  So very much has been promised, so little shown and what has been shown has consistently failed to live in even the shadow of it's hype.

Anglachel

Quote from: Warboss Squee;844650So very much has been promised, so little shown and what has been shown has consistently failed to live in even the shadow of it's hype.

Not if you believe rpg.net ..... :eek: :D

I really don't understand what happened there...i mean with all the Ex3e. Can it be that the Dev. Team really is that level of incompetent...in all it's various forms (from advertisement, to development over to PR etc etc ).
I mean safe for the two places rpg.net and the OPP forums, i don't think you find that much "good press" for what is known about Ex3e. But as the Devs have (and still do) ignored any and all channels safe for the aforementioned two, it is no wonder that they will fall hard on their collective noses.

Although...after the most successfull KS in the rpg-section ever...i don't think you can call it a defeat (or whatever) ... Ex3e is already a big success for them. Unfortunately it will probably not be for all the players and GMs around the world who do not fall into the category of the "i'd even find the Devs' poop on a piece of paper awesome-sauce"-crowd.

I guess for me it's back to "maybe Ex 4e will be something different" :D :rolleyes:

jan paparazzi

Quote from: Anglachel;844671Unfortunately it will probably not be for all the players and GMs around the world who do not fall into the category of the "i'd even find the Devs' poop on a piece of paper awesome-sauce"-crowd.

:rotfl:

They really like to have their asses kissed, don't they? My experience on WW fora is compliments are welcome, but criticism gets either censored by the mods or dogpiled by fanboys. It's really a big circle jerk. I found it very stifling on WW/OP fora. Instead of opening up new worlds to me, the world was getting smaller and smaller.
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AsenRG

Quote from: Warboss Squee;844650I was being sarcastic.

As it stands, between the few previews given, the leaked playtest material and the new art preview, I am so entirely underwhelmed that mankind lacks the scientific tools to truly quantify the lack of fucks given.

This is the development version of ripping defeat from the jaws of victory as far as I'm concerned.  So very much has been promised, so little shown and what has been shown has consistently failed to live in even the shadow of it's hype.
I was being merely ironic. A pity neither registers in text as well as it should.

But well, let's be fair. They've managed to make it commercially successful already, you just can't call it a defeat:)!

Quote from: Anglachel;844671I guess for me it's back to "maybe Ex 4e will be something different" :D :rolleyes:
Yeah, but it's about 8-10 years away!

Besides, now that I've got my own conversions for Exalted, I'm not entirely sure what I might need Ex4e for;).
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Anglachel

Quote from: AsenRG;844686Yeah, but it's about 8-10 years away!

Besides, now that I've got my own conversions for Exalted, I'm not entirely sure what I might need Ex4e for;).

Yes, i know. At least 8 - 10 years.
And i hear you...i am also not sure i need it. BUT....i would so very much like to see an official mechanics version that keeps all the promises that the fluff makes. Because honestly, THAT would definitely be a game i'd love. I might even then become a fanboy of THAT Dev-Team :D ;)

Nexus

AFAICT from some of the comments the Devs feel they are making the game for Silent Majority of fans that don't participate in forums  or online gaming culture that have made their desires and support known in person and so can discount internet commentary when it suits them.
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Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Anglachel

Quote from: Nexus;844835AFAICT from some of the comments the Devs feel they are making the game for Silent Majority of fans that don't participate in forums  or online gaming culture that have made their desires and support known in person and so can discount internet commentary when it suits them.

Yeah, that's what i'd say as well if i see the majority of the internet starting to clue in on what kind of crap i have been producing.
Lame excuses.

Also - offensive as hell. Because it's the internet that have shown them their support with almost 700'000 $ . Another mark against their snobbish, arrogant behaviour.