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Everyone in Rifts is insane.

Started by Ratman_tf, October 03, 2016, 04:21:31 PM

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Quote from: Christopher Brady;924878So I'll grant you that they see the world as nuts, but maybe not so much nuts in their own mind.  After all, we may think the Americans are insane by sticking with their current presidential choices (for example) but do you think that they believe they are completely off their rockers?

Yes, yes we do.  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FlcngdW2Ju4

Christopher Brady

Quote from: Headless;924890Yes, yes we do.  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FlcngdW2Ju4

So to clarify, nothing else here, not insulting or otherwise derogatory, do you honestly believe that YOU are certifiably insane?
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Quote from: Certified;924881Just going to point out the origin story hidden inside a good point. I'm thinking Cyber-Knight.

Or Coalition soldier, or sign up with a Coalition aligned merc crew.  It's a pretty open set up.
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Ratman_tf

Quote from: Christopher Brady;924911Or Coalition soldier, or sign up with a Coalition aligned merc crew.  It's a pretty open set up.

I've always thought that a lot of Juicers, Crazies and Borgs have that kind of origin story.

Village eaten. No money, nothing to lose. Get augmented, serve a term to pay off the bill, and then go looking for the demons that ate your sister.
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Becoming a Juicer or Crazy is an insane reaction to an insane world...therefore it makes perfect sense. :D
Becoming a Full Conversion Borg is little less crazy, but you're still essentially saying "I'm sacrificing a lot my humanity, but in this world, humanity isn't worth much."

Of course Borgs are also the normal sane guys who say "Well, I can't afford a Glitter Boy" or Ultimax... :D
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Quote from: Ratman_tf;924951I've always thought that a lot of Juicers, Crazies and Borgs have that kind of origin story.

Village eaten. No money, nothing to lose. Get augmented, serve a term to pay off the bill, and then go looking for the demons that ate your sister.

Quote from: CRKrueger;924977Becoming a Juicer or Crazy is an insane reaction to an insane world...therefore it makes perfect sense. :D
Becoming a Full Conversion Borg is little less crazy, but you're still essentially saying "I'm sacrificing a lot my humanity, but in this world, humanity isn't worth much."

Of course Borgs are also the normal sane guys who say "Well, I can't afford a Glitter Boy" or Ultimax... :D

Exactly, like I said, open to a lot of OCCs.
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There is a point there: outside of the context of culture and history, just about any group of people look certifiably insane.
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Quote from: CRKrueger;924977Of course Borgs are also the normal sane guys who say "Well, I can't afford a Glitter Boy" or Ultimax... :D

True. Also, in the original rule book (I don't know about the Ultimate Edition) "Slave Borg" was an OCC subtype, as many borgs were created involuntarily as laborers. I always thought the undercurrents of Rifts was more interesting than the in-your-face aspects of the setting.
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Quote from: RPGPundit;925454There is a point there: outside of the context of culture and history, just about any group of people look certifiably insane.

My point exactly.
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Quote from: everloss;925542I always thought the undercurrents of Rifts was more interesting than the in-your-face aspects of the setting.

Fully agree! If you want to run Rifts grimdark, its definitely a nasty world. One of the main reasons I enjoy running Chaos Earth. It's high tech Walking Dead.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;925454There is a point there: outside of the context of culture and history, just about any group of people look certifiably insane.

Sure, maybe.  As long as you aren't advancing a cultural relativism of sanity argument.

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Quote from: Spinachcat;925556Fully agree! If you want to run Rifts grimdark, its definitely a nasty world. One of the main reasons I enjoy running Chaos Earth. It's high tech Walking Dead.

Systems Failure is even more like that.
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Siembieda really dropped the ball with Chaos Earth. If he hadn't tried to split it up into 3 books, I think it would have been a big seller. I certainly like it a lot.
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Quote from: RPGPundit;925454There is a point there: outside of the context of culture and history, just about any group of people look certifiably insane.

Culture and history are the reason people do things.  So paraphrasing the above statement "people who do things for no reason are insane."

And people in hight stress environments know they are in high stress environments.  And they can feel the toll it takes on them. They know they aren't at their best.

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Quote from: danbuter;927301Siembieda really dropped the ball with Chaos Earth. If he hadn't tried to split it up into 3 books, I think it would have been a big seller. I certainly like it a lot.

He did. Also what's with all wizards turning MDC at ley lines? I realize the magic levels were higher but jeez.