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Title: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: RPGPundit on January 29, 2022, 08:50:26 PM
Starting at 1:06:09 I join this epic Livestream by @legionofmyth along with @DolliDaily where we tear apart the idiotic "Alt-Right" OSR slander video made against us by a potato man, point by point.


Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: GeekyBugle on January 29, 2022, 09:29:04 PM
Potato man's only battle is against weight, and he's loosing.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: RPGPundit on January 29, 2022, 10:46:15 PM
The #dnd #osr SJWs like all of John Potato's friends are the biggest Nazis in the hobby. They believe all the same garbage Varg does.

Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Ruprecht on January 30, 2022, 02:10:50 AM
Personally I found Battle's video to be pathetic, I mean he practically called Grim Jim alt-right. It's so ham fisted that I'm embarrassed for the folks that found it persuasive and can only guess they didn't actually watch it but just knew it was politically like-minded.

Since google hides dislikes, here's the info for the Battle video:
793 likes, 288 dislikes.   Jan 29: 11:00pm Pacific time
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Rob Necronomicon on January 30, 2022, 06:38:51 AM
He just vomited out a load of "non-facts", cheery picked some stuff or just took quotes right out of context. Just another chubby little oxygen thief trying to get virtual back slaps from the mob who already want to believe, that these three characters are as bad as everyone else says.

Why learn about the truth, when you can just sit back and let someone fill you with excrement. Who needs the facts, eh?
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: JMiskimen on January 30, 2022, 09:39:56 AM
"Feelings are facts," so speaks the Potatoman ...

... so by that nonlinear logic, his whole presentation was a documentary(?)

All I know is both Grim's video and (particularly) the above mentioned livestream response were at times comedy gold in the ridicule of the troglodyte.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Ruprecht on January 30, 2022, 09:42:02 AM
Did anyone else laugh at that 1967 teachers experiment that was supposed to show how Pundit/Venger/Grim are drawing people into their Nazi ways but instead looked exactly like modern leftist Covid group-think.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: RebelSky on January 30, 2022, 09:48:21 AM
Dollipop posted her own 2 hour plus response video on her own channel too.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: HappyDaze on January 30, 2022, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on January 30, 2022, 06:38:51 AM
He just vomited out a load of "non-facts", cheery picked some stuff or just took quotes right out of context. Just another chubby little oxygen thief trying to get virtual back slaps from the mob who already want to believe, that these three characters are as bad as everyone else says.

Why learn about the truth, when you can just sit back and let someone fill you with excrement. Who needs the facts, eh?
TBH, I feel much like that about all of the videos by all of the posters mentioned. All are just emotionally charged clickbaiters.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: moonsweeper on January 30, 2022, 01:25:36 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on January 30, 2022, 09:42:02 AM
Did anyone else laugh at that 1967 teachers experiment that was supposed to show how Pundit/Venger/Grim are drawing people into their Nazi ways but instead looked exactly like modern leftist Covid group-think.

;D

Yeah, as soon as his video started with references to the Third Wave project, I knew it was going to be comedy gold.  Anytime you see one of these idiots reference it, the ironic humor meter goes off the scale.

...but these are people who make statements like

1.  If  you have 1 Nazi at a table and 10 people are talking to them then you have 11 Nazis.
2.  If you agree with even 1 thing Nazis espoused you are a Nazi.

---which shows they have less accurate knowledge of the topic than the average 10-year-old who just watched Raiders of the Lost Ark for the first time.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Rob Necronomicon on January 30, 2022, 01:32:09 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 30, 2022, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on January 30, 2022, 06:38:51 AM
He just vomited out a load of "non-facts", cheery picked some stuff or just took quotes right out of context. Just another chubby little oxygen thief trying to get virtual back slaps from the mob who already want to believe, that these three characters are as bad as everyone else says.

Why learn about the truth, when you can just sit back and let someone fill you with excrement. Who needs the facts, eh?
TBH, I feel much like that about all of the videos by all of the posters mentioned. All are just emotionally charged clickbaiters.

The only thing though, is that the potato here, is using very specific ad-hominem attacks. If he was just bleating on about the OSR as a 'group' that would be more legitimate. Even though he'd still be telling a load of porkies.


Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: DocJones on January 30, 2022, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: JMiskimen on January 30, 2022, 09:39:56 AM
"Feelings are facts," so speaks the Potatoman ...
I had good laugh at that and even more when he said Dollypop was dangerous.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: RPGPundit on January 30, 2022, 07:17:45 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on January 30, 2022, 02:10:50 AM
Personally I found Battle's video to be pathetic, I mean he practically called Grim Jim alt-right. It's so ham fisted that I'm embarrassed for the folks that found it persuasive and can only guess they didn't actually watch it but just knew it was politically like-minded.

Since google hides dislikes, here's the info for the Battle video:
793 likes, 288 dislikes.   Jan 29: 11:00pm Pacific time

How could you find out the dislikes?
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: RPGPundit on January 30, 2022, 07:19:17 PM
Quote from: moonsweeper on January 30, 2022, 01:25:36 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on January 30, 2022, 09:42:02 AM
Did anyone else laugh at that 1967 teachers experiment that was supposed to show how Pundit/Venger/Grim are drawing people into their Nazi ways but instead looked exactly like modern leftist Covid group-think.

;D

Yeah, as soon as his video started with references to the Third Wave project, I knew it was going to be comedy gold.  Anytime you see one of these idiots reference it, the ironic humor meter goes off the scale.

...but these are people who make statements like

1.  If  you have 1 Nazi at a table and 10 people are talking to them then you have 11 Nazis.
2.  If you agree with even 1 thing Nazis espoused you are a Nazi.

---which shows they have less accurate knowledge of the topic than the average 10-year-old who just watched Raiders of the Lost Ark for the first time.


The #dnd #osr SJWs like all of John Potato's friends are the biggest Nazis in the hobby. They believe all the same garbage Varg does.

Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: GeekyBugle on January 30, 2022, 07:23:40 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on January 30, 2022, 07:17:45 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on January 30, 2022, 02:10:50 AM
Personally I found Battle's video to be pathetic, I mean he practically called Grim Jim alt-right. It's so ham fisted that I'm embarrassed for the folks that found it persuasive and can only guess they didn't actually watch it but just knew it was politically like-minded.

Since google hides dislikes, here's the info for the Battle video:
793 likes, 288 dislikes.   Jan 29: 11:00pm Pacific time

How could you find out the dislikes?

There's a chrome extension, but no one tells you the name of it.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Ratman_tf on January 30, 2022, 08:03:49 PM
Quote from: moonsweeper on January 30, 2022, 01:25:36 PM
---which shows they have less accurate knowledge of the topic than the average 10-year-old who just watched Raiders of the Lost Ark for the first time.

I half expected him to show the scene from The Rocketeer and put text over it saying "BEWARE THE NAZI THREAT IN THE OSR!"

Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Ruprecht on January 30, 2022, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on January 30, 2022, 07:17:45 PM
How could you find out the dislikes?
Chrome has an extension called "Return YouTube Dislike" that allows you to see Dislikes.
https://www.followchain.org/see-youtube-dislikes/

I think Edge might have the same extension.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Tasty_Wind on January 30, 2022, 10:06:33 PM
I get where you're coming from Pundit, but "Nazi" has been worn out to the point where it's lost its sting. We should start using a word that these people claim to hate: Colonizer.
Think about it; these people are outsiders who come into a space that's been occupied for generations,  force their ideology and way of living on the natives, tear down the pre-existing culture ("Orc are RaScIsT!", and the various attacks on Gary Gygax and his legacy), and resistance is met with threats of exile or destruction.
the whole thing sounds pretty "colonialist" to me.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: GeekyBugle on January 31, 2022, 01:38:18 PM
Quote from: Tasty_Wind on January 30, 2022, 10:06:33 PM
I get where you're coming from Pundit, but "Nazi" has been worn out to the point where it's lost its sting. We should start using a word that these people claim to hate: Colonizer.
Think about it; these people are outsiders who come into a space that's been occupied for generations,  force their ideology and way of living on the natives, tear down the pre-existing culture ("Orc are RaScIsT!", and the various attacks on Gary Gygax and his legacy), and resistance is met with threats of exile or destruction.
the whole thing sounds pretty "colonialist" to me.

Not to mention the Cultural Imperialism of trying to change cultures not their own to fit their cult's purity standards... Except those cultures of a certain religion of piece, those are beautiful and feminist or some shit.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Ratman_tf on January 31, 2022, 01:48:35 PM
Quote from: Tasty_Wind on January 30, 2022, 10:06:33 PM
I get where you're coming from Pundit, but "Nazi" has been worn out to the point where it's lost its sting. We should start using a word that these people claim to hate: Colonizer.
Think about it; these people are outsiders who come into a space that's been occupied for generations,  force their ideology and way of living on the natives, tear down the pre-existing culture ("Orc are RaScIsT!", and the various attacks on Gary Gygax and his legacy), and resistance is met with threats of exile or destruction.
the whole thing sounds pretty "colonialist" to me.

I agree. Trying to avoid interjecting off topic issues, but I can think of lots of activist topics that were hijacked by the woke and made to serve their agenda.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Jason Coplen on January 31, 2022, 03:39:17 PM
Thanks, Ruprecht! You're a God among men.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: RPGPundit on January 31, 2022, 06:06:04 PM
Accusing them of colonialism is fine, they're trying to be that when it comes to their imagined ownership of non-white groups, and with their imperialist attempt to impose "latinx" on Latinos who don't want it, because it's "for their own good".

But all of these still come down to SJWs sharing Nazi ideas. They think race is the most important thing about humans. They think races must be segregated or one must dominate another. That's what is motivating this idea that THEY must speak for black people or Latinos or muslims.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Omega on January 31, 2022, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: Tasty_Wind on January 30, 2022, 10:06:33 PM
I get where you're coming from Pundit, but "Nazi" has been worn out to the point where it's lost its sting. We should start using a word that these people claim to hate: Colonizer.
Think about it; these people are outsiders who come into a space that's been occupied for generations,  force their ideology and way of living on the natives, tear down the pre-existing culture ("Orc are RaScIsT!", and the various attacks on Gary Gygax and his legacy), and resistance is met with threats of exile or destruction.
the whole thing sounds pretty "colonialist" to me.

They also in every iteration love to lace the rhetoric with some new way of actuating "white mans burden". They WILL bitch incessantly FOR you and in YOUR name.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: FingerRod on February 01, 2022, 03:28:18 PM
Good, Bad, Ugly - Pundit/Joe, MaxLiao, Heathendog. Had to ultimately shut it off due to Heathendog.

The shoutout for Star Adventurer was on point.
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Thorn Drumheller on February 01, 2022, 04:11:55 PM
Quote from: moonsweeper on January 30, 2022, 01:25:36 PM
;D

Yeah, as soon as his video started with references to the Third Wave project, I knew it was going to be comedy gold.  Anytime you see one of these idiots reference it, the ironic humor meter goes off the scale.

...but these are people who make statements like

1.  If  you have 1 Nazi at a table and 10 people are talking to them then you have 11 Nazis.
2.  If you agree with even 1 thing Nazis espoused you are a Nazi.

---which shows they have less accurate knowledge of the topic than the average 10-year-old who just watched Raiders of the Lost Ark for the first time.

Right?! And the way he said he was just trying to educate people. Their side always claims they think critically.....I'm not sure most know how to think critically anymore (present company excepted).
Title: Re: Epic Livestream Rebuttal to John "Potato Man" Battle
Post by: Thorn Drumheller on February 01, 2022, 04:13:32 PM
Quote from: Tasty_Wind on January 30, 2022, 10:06:33 PM
I get where you're coming from Pundit, but "Nazi" has been worn out to the point where it's lost its sting. We should start using a word that these people claim to hate: Colonizer.
Think about it; these people are outsiders who come into a space that's been occupied for generations,  force their ideology and way of living on the natives, tear down the pre-existing culture ("Orc are RaScIsT!", and the various attacks on Gary Gygax and his legacy), and resistance is met with threats of exile or destruction.
the whole thing sounds pretty "colonialist" to me.

This is so insightful. Just throw that they are colonialists. I like it.