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ENnies

Started by Skullking, August 07, 2022, 03:07:01 PM

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Valatar

#45
August 19, 2022, 09:51:09 PM
I'm mildly disturbed although not too surprised that the satirical worst-case RPG I completely pulled out of my ass bears some apparent similarity to an actual product.

Effete

#46
August 19, 2022, 11:16:53 PM
Quote from: Valatar on August 19, 2022, 09:51:09 PM
I'm mildly disturbed although not too surprised that the satirical worst-case RPG I completely pulled out of my ass bears some apparent similarity to an actual product.

Is there a Poe's Law for ttrpgs?
Think of the most regressive, poorly designed, dumpster fire of a game, and some danger-hairs and soyboys are playing it right now in grandma's basement.

Brooding Paladin

#47
August 20, 2022, 05:24:53 PM
Well, here's how I figure it's nothing more than virtue signaling:  where else was TSL regarded as awesome?  Did it place, say, for editing?  Art?  Rule system?  Writing?  Setting?

Nah, none of that.  It's just awesome because it's awesome.  Mmmkay...

Thorn Drumheller

#48
August 21, 2022, 11:32:16 PM
My take is the ENnies are irrelevant. Just like most industry "awards" anymore.

There might have been a time when awards awarded excellence, but those days are long past.
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Mistwell

#49
August 21, 2022, 11:53:04 PM
Again, some solid games were nominated this year, and some solid games won this year. Y'all can firmly dislike one or two winners without declaring the entire ENNIES as evil and lost and woke or whatever.

rgalex

#50
August 22, 2022, 07:37:38 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on August 21, 2022, 11:53:04 PM
Again, some solid games were nominated this year, and some solid games won this year. Y'all can firmly dislike one or two winners without declaring the entire ENNIES as evil and lost and woke or whatever.

You're right, but when was the last time you heard someone say "Shit man, that's the game that won the Ennie for Best Cartography!  Let's buy that one and play it next session"?

Some awards just have more social clout than others.

Thorn Drumheller

#51
August 22, 2022, 08:29:37 AM Last Edit: August 22, 2022, 08:33:22 AM by Thorn Drumheller
Quote from: Mistwell on August 21, 2022, 11:53:04 PM
Again, some solid games were nominated this year, and some solid games won this year. Y'all can firmly dislike one or two winners without declaring the entire ENNIES as evil and lost and woke or whatever.

Fair enough. Let's just say I've lost faith in the process anymore. I doubt the motives behind awards from the "Oscars" to book awards. We've seen too many instances of bad actors over the last decade.

So once that trust is lost from a consumer, in this case me, I really just ignore them. I usually search for youtube reviews, blog reviews on games etc.

And really, we could go into depth about what it means to win game of the year. But for TSL to win, the first impression I got was it's just virtue signalling. That impression could be right or wrong. But when the name of the game is loaded with modern politically charged terms.......well there you have it.
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Visitor Q

#52
August 22, 2022, 09:11:40 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on August 21, 2022, 11:53:04 PM
Again, some solid games were nominated this year, and some solid games won this year. Y'all can firmly dislike one or two winners without declaring the entire ENNIES as evil and lost and woke or whatever.

To be honest I've been roleplaying for pushing 30 years now, I've always taken an interest in what's going on online and I only even heard about the Enniea this year. It's a pretty niche part of a niche hobby.

The flip side of that is it's also a bit pointless people complaining about it.

Banjo Destructo

#53
August 22, 2022, 09:26:48 AM
I have no problem with the ennies, we just need to start our own rpg award thing.

Mistwell

#54
August 22, 2022, 06:32:50 PM
Quote from: Banjo Destructo on August 22, 2022, 09:26:48 AM
I have no problem with the ennies, we just need to start our own rpg award thing.

The Pundies?

deadDMwalking

#55
August 24, 2022, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on August 21, 2022, 11:53:04 PM
Again, some solid games were nominated this year, and some solid games won this year. Y'all can firmly dislike one or two winners without declaring the entire ENNIES as evil and lost and woke or whatever.

It appears that you are mistaken.  Or at least, it appears that most people here are not capable of doing that.

It looks like most of the nominees and I think all of the winners do have review(s) online, but not an official Ennies review.  If such a thing does exist (and it's quite possible I just don't know how to find it), I'd be curious to see it. 

If a title that sounds a little strange won, I'm at least curious to know what set it apart from the competition.  I don't want to make the mistake of judging a book solely by the cover. 
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GeekyBugle

#56
August 24, 2022, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Banjo Destructo on August 22, 2022, 09:26:48 AM
I have no problem with the ennies, we just need to start our own rpg award thing.

Think we could convince pundit of creating a sub-forum for that?

We propose the games, we vote on them.

But maybe we could get a wider voter base if the voting was elsewhere.
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HappyDaze

#57
August 24, 2022, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 24, 2022, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Banjo Destructo on August 22, 2022, 09:26:48 AM
I have no problem with the ennies, we just need to start our own rpg award thing.

Think we could convince pundit of creating a sub-forum for that?

We propose the games, we vote on them.

But maybe we could get a wider voter base if the voting was elsewhere.
Careful what you ask for. If you do get that wider base to vote, I wouldn't be surprised to find that the tastes so commonly seen on this site are less popular than many here think they are...and then there will be calls for a second iteration (then a third, and then...) "our own" awards that better reflect the echos commonly heard here.

GeekyBugle

#58
August 24, 2022, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 24, 2022, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 24, 2022, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Banjo Destructo on August 22, 2022, 09:26:48 AM
I have no problem with the ennies, we just need to start our own rpg award thing.

Think we could convince pundit of creating a sub-forum for that?

We propose the games, we vote on them.

But maybe we could get a wider voter base if the voting was elsewhere.
Careful what you ask for. If you do get that wider base to vote, I wouldn't be surprised to find that the tastes so commonly seen on this site are less popular than many here think they are...and then there will be calls for a second iteration (then a third, and then...) "our own" awards that better reflect the echos commonly heard here.

You're operating under the assumption I want to keep out those voices. I don't, but chances are they will self segregate since it's an award that's contaminated by icky cooties from us.

Anyhow I only said the voting should be from a wider audience, not the nomination. Do you think the ennies would EVER ask us plebs what games should be nominated? No, they have their purity tests baked into it.

I like more the Dragon Awards for that reason.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

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Valatar

#59
August 24, 2022, 06:32:26 PM
The real entertainment would come from how quickly publishers fall over themselves to reject or ignore any awards coming from this site, lest they become tainted by association with the wrong sort of customer.
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