Product of the Year: Thirsty Sword Lesbians
Best Game: Thirsty Sword Lesbians

FFS!

Rant over.

Like all of these award ceremonies, it's nothing more than shameless pandering. I just wish I could have marched on stage and smacked Evil Hat across the face.

Quote from: Skullking on August 07, 2022, 03:07:01 PM
Product of the Year: Thirsty Sword Lesbians
Best Game: Thirsty Sword Lesbians

FFS!

Rant over.

Greetings!

*Laughing* Yes, EN World is absolutely full of Libtards. Anything "The ENNIES" does is simply a down-stream product of that reality.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I stopped visiting ENWorld because their politics became insufferable. I couldn't care less about what they do, although it'd be fun to do an RPGSite awards or something similar.

Shit like this is why enworld is a sad place, and I won't touch their gaming stuff. Level up or whatever or their remake of d6 into a crappier and more complicated system.

Quote from: Skullking on August 07, 2022, 03:07:01 PM
Product of the Year: Thirsty Sword Lesbians
Best Game: Thirsty Sword Lesbians

FFS!

Rant over.

I knew that Coyote and Crow should have bribed them more!

It's been interesting to watch the big RPG forums following the same trajectory over the years.

Back when D&D 3E was coming out, there were a bunch of forums active, but the big names were already RPG.net and ENWorld (Dragonsfoot, among others, being the torch bearer for grognards), while things like the SWRPG forum were HUGE repositories of knowledge about specific games.

At that time, both of the big forums were actually pretty open, and the only real limitation on language was Eric's Grandma's rule (no heavy cursing in order to not upset the hypothetical old woman). ENWorld became the leading forum for those that wanted 3E news and discussion, and RPG.net positioned itself as more or less the "anti-D20" boards. Nothing serious, just a slight holier-than-thou attitude towards those that enjoyed WotC's new system.

Then, over time, RPG.net started morphing into what became TBP. Censorship of language started happening, then certain views started being frowned upon, then bannings and now a full-on fucking dictatorship with ironclad rules banning even the mention of the existence of certain ideas/RPGs.

With ENWorld, there was a much slower progression, but things did start to tighten up. When Morrus took over for good he created Circvs Maximvs as a no-holds-barred alternative to ENWorld, for those that were starting to chafe under the new rules (mostly unwritten). That situation lasted for a long while, with people that felt uncomfortable at ENWorld migrating to CM, or cross-posting with softer language on the mother forums.

However, inexorably, change came, and ENWorld started resembling TBP more and more. CM eventually fell into disrepair (not even sure if it's still up) and ENWorld introduced more rules, written down this time around, and the mods started policing discussions in a far harsher way than before.

Nowadays, I think there's still a difference between the two of them, with TBP remaining a much worse place, with draconian rules and summary bannings that would make even some of ENWorld's mods blanch.

A sad story indeed.

I've never played, seen or heard anyone play or see that game other than one of the ENNIES judges. Maybe it's good? I suspect though that it's more about the idea than the game itself.  I'll reserve judgement until I read some reviews from people who actually played it and don't talk about how important the theme is to them, or how important the authors are to them, but about the gameplay itself. It's a "Powered by the Apocalypse" game and I don't tend to like those mechanics.

That said there are LOTS of games in these ENNIES and some of them sound good:

I am interested in Colostle: A Solo RPG Adventure. I'd like to know if it's appropriate for middle school aged kids.

The Troubleshooters - The U-Boat Mystery sounds interesting. It's sort of a Tintin or Johnny Quest adventure in an alternate nineteen sixties thwarting the evil plans for world domination by the secret organization known as The Octopus. The system is Basic Roleplaying System.

Is anyone interested in anything else on this list, or are you too wigged out by the word "Lesbians" in a game name to comment on any of the other winners?

Quote from: Mistwell on August 07, 2022, 08:35:24 PM
I've never played, seen or heard anyone play or see that game other than one of the ENNIES judges. Maybe it's good? I suspect though that it's more about the idea than the game itself.  I'll reserve judgement until I read some reviews from people who actually played it and don't talk about how important the theme is to them, or how important the authors are to them, but about the gameplay itself. It's a "Powered by the Apocalypse" game and I don't tend to like those mechanics.

That said there are LOTS of games in these ENNIES and some of them sound good. I am interested in Colostle: A Solo RPG Adventure.

Is anyone interested in anything else on this list, or are you too wigged out by the word "Lesbians" in a game name to comment on any of the other winners?

Fuck off, liar.

Your Gross Conceptual Error here is that you think both Coyote and Crow and Thirsty Sword Lesbians were meant to be actual games that people would play instead of just massive attempts at pandering to get people to blow money on the Kickstarters as a way of virtue signalling and thus lining their pockets of the creators.

You are so used to your own lies that you can't see a grift when it happens.

TSL!?? Lol

Quote from: jeff37923 on August 07, 2022, 08:51:53 PM

Fuck off, liar.

Your Gross Conceptual Error here is that you think both Coyote and Crow

Wait wait wait. Stop right there. I've never said a word about that game which was positive in any way. Don't go saying "fuck off liar" and then immediately lie about me Jeff. That game isn't even on that ENNIES list we're talking about. You literally fabricated it being the topic, AND fabricated me saying something about it. And watch you shuck and jive and pretend somehow you slinking that game into this topic is somehow germane an how you can attribute an opinion I have not made to that game because...reasons? Dick move Jeff.

Quoteand Thirsty Sword Lesbians were meant to be actual games that people would play instead of just massive attempts at pandering to get people to blow money on the Kickstarters as a way of virtue signalling and thus lining their pockets of the creators.

You JUST repeated what I said about it, in different tone (stronger and more aggressive), as if I said the opposite of what I said. What is it you think I meant by " I suspect though that it's more about the idea than the game itself?" We agree that is what it appears to be. Our only disagreement is my leaving room for someone to prove me wrong, and you asserting you couldn't conceive of being wrong. But you and I get the same vibe from this - it's probably just the idea and not the game that's supposed to be the selling point, and neither of us have heard of anyone, yah know, playing it as a game.

That still doesn't mean people can't comment on other stuff that just won ENNIES. There remain a ton of indie games in there, some worth talking about. Why is this game the only one worth commenting on in a thread dedicated to the ENNIES this year?

Quote from: Mistwell on August 07, 2022, 08:35:24 PM
Is anyone interested in anything else on this list, or are you too wigged out by the word "Lesbians" in a game name to comment on any of the other winners?

Dude, we love lesbians in 4K! We're not so fond of the man-hating ones, or the virtue signaling Evil Hat for thinking they were cool.

Quote from: Zelen on August 07, 2022, 05:38:37 PM
I stopped visiting ENWorld because their politics became insufferable. I couldn't care less about what they do, although it'd be fun to do an RPGSite awards or something similar.

Agreed.

Masters
And
Gamers
Appreciation
Award.
MAGAA.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 07, 2022, 10:15:41 PM

Quote from: Zelen on August 07, 2022, 05:38:37 PM
I stopped visiting ENWorld because their politics became insufferable. I couldn't care less about what they do, although it'd be fun to do an RPGSite awards or something similar.

Agreed.

Masters
And
Gamers
Appreciation
Award.
MAGAA.

Sounds great!

Quote from: Jason Coplen on August 07, 2022, 10:09:02 PM

Quote from: Mistwell on August 07, 2022, 08:35:24 PM
Is anyone interested in anything else on this list, or are you too wigged out by the word "Lesbians" in a game name to comment on any of the other winners?

Dude, we love lesbians in 4K! We're not so fond of the man-hating ones, or the virtue signaling Evil Hat for thinking they were cool.

OK but are you interested in anything else on this list?