Quote from: flyingmice;634952I can't wait until the day we all have our own labels! It will be wicked awesome! I'll be a "clashist", you can be a "Youist", and Benoist can be a Benoi... well, whatever! We can put up electrified barbed wire around our isms, and beat each other over the head with our stone clubs if we get though that! It'll be grand! Have at you! Fiend! Corrupter of children! Assassin!

-clash

My label shall be

 "Dark Lord Constantinius the IXth, Neverwas-King of Pariedolia, and Royal Philologist of Tir Na Nog"

Quote from: TristramEvans;634957My label shall be

 "Dark Lord Constantinius the IXth, Neverwas-King of Pariedolia, and Royal Philologist of Tir Na Nog"

It's the wave of the future, I tell you!

-clash

Quote from: flyingmice;634952I can't wait until the day we all have our own labels! It will be wicked awesome!

"I'm imagining you naked right now."


Damn, my label sucks.

Quote from: TristramEvans;634692I'm an Emulationo-Immersionist. I like genre emulation, but only up until the point where it doesn't interfere with character immersion. Oh, and with my prediliction for Cool Ranch Doritoes as an aid to characterization, I guess I'm a Dorito-Emulationo-Immersionista.

Reformed or Orthodox?

Quote from: J Arcane;634988Reformed or Orthodox?

Advent-Hoppist

Sometimes I truly love you guys. This is one of those times.

Huh, lemme see?  "D&D hater" ah well, somethings never change

QuoteBut, I definitely wouldn't agree that the play-style is in its infancy. (As CRKreuger had already stated). 3 of the 8 RPGs you mention are pre-2000 releases: Pendragon (1985), Castle Falkenstein (1994), and Unknown Armies (1998).

Yeah, but I had the impression these were more the exception than the norm by then. Well, at least here in Brazil I think it was.

QuoteVictory Games' James Bond was indeed very much a genre game, moreso than most so-called games today. As was WEG's Ghostbusters, Toon, Teenagers From Outer Space, TSr' Marvel Superheroes, Mayfair's DC Heroes, to name just a few. In fact, that list pretty describes the entire foundation of every "modern" genre gamesystem of the last 20 years not directly influenced by D&D.

Cool. Ill take a look at those.

Quote from: TristramEvans;634990Advent-Hoppist

Crypto-Hobbitist

QuoteI don't know why you want to make a box to put youself into. Why bother? Why not just say what you did that you're more interested in emulating tropes and themes and leave it at that. What will the title of "emulationist" do for you exactly?

Sorry, but I dont see where the problem is. Could you elaborate ?

By the way, I just found out I have this same tendency for other kinds of games. From all the board/cardgames I played lately, most of them have this strong thematic focus too (Netrunner, Game of Thrones, etc).

Quote from: silva;635012Sorry, but I dont see where the problem is. Could you elaborate ?

Basically while some people consider *ist titles and categories useful for RPG related matter, the downsides have outweighed the upsides.  Making the jargon term "emulationist" doesn't actually communicate anything because it requires you to first explain that what you are emulating is genre tropes and themes.  It is just more jargon.  And jargon about categories of people or play invariable creates boxes that people put other people and games into in a very not-useful manner.

QuoteBy the way, I just found out I have this same tendency for other kinds of games. From all the board/cardgames I played lately, most of them have this strong thematic focus too (Netrunner, Game of Thrones, etc).

Strongly themed games are awesome and preferring them is awesome too.  I adore Netrunner for the same reasons.  But I'm probably not going to make up a jargon term that I will have to explain every time I use it to describe liking games for that reason.  It gains me nothing that just saying "I like games with strong theme" doesn't do better.

If you want an example of why it's bad, take a look at how emulationist is used in the class video gaming scene.  Endless pissing matches between those who consider themselves true classic gamers because they use the original hardware and those championing the advantages of using emulators and roms to play their 80s NES games.

It's identity politics bullshit about playing games.  Imagine if people would just say "I like the feel of playing on the original hardware" and "that is cool, but I like that I can have 2000 games on my one memory card and play them all on an emulator on my android phone" instead of making it about being part of an *ist group.

All down side, no up side.

Quote from: Black Vulmea;634694Apparently my tastes run to picturing the other players naked.

I'm as surprised as anybody, frankly.

For me, it really depends on how attractive the player is.

Quote from: JonTheBrowser;635016Basically while some people consider *ist titles and categories useful for RPG related matter, the downsides have outweighed the upsides.  Making the jargon term "emulationist" doesn't actually communicate anything because it requires you to first explain that what you are emulating is genre tropes and themes.  It is just more jargon.  And jargon about categories of people or play invariable creates boxes that people put other people and games into in a very not-useful manner.



Strongly themed games are awesome and preferring them is awesome too.  I adore Netrunner for the same reasons.  But I'm probably not going to make up a jargon term that I will have to explain every time I use it to describe liking games for that reason.  It gains me nothing that just saying "I like games with strong theme" doesn't do better.

If you want an example of why it's bad, take a look at how emulationist is used in the class video gaming scene.  Endless pissing matches between those who consider themselves true classic gamers because they use the original hardware and those championing the advantages of using emulators and roms to play their 80s NES games.

It's identity politics bullshit about playing games.  Imagine if people would just say "I like the feel of playing on the original hardware" and "that is cool, but I like that I can have 2000 games on my one memory card and play them all on an emulator on my android phone" instead of making it about being part of an *ist group.

All down side, no up side.

Copied for truth!

-clash

Quote from: JonTheBrowser;635016Strongly themed games are awesome and preferring them is awesome too. . . . But I'm probably not going to make up a jargon term that I will have to explain every time I use it to describe liking games for that reason.

*DING!* Winnah!

Emulation isn't an "ism", its the point of the RPG play experience; it is one half (along with immersion) of what defines RPGs as RPGs.

So the term for someone who like emulation would be "Role Player".

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