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Nightfall · August 13, 2011, 01:53:01 AM

Well actually I do hate illusions AND I like Magic missile.

So far you're pretty much on track on how I think.

Course I generally don't go for evocation specialization. I prefer necromancy.

Cranewings · August 13, 2011, 02:07:10 AM

Quote from: Benoist;473501OK. That sounds better than the Complete Fuckwitery of Wizards.

Yeah see: that's EXACTLY the kind of conversation that I just do not give a shit about, because I have an actual brain and I realize game balance is something that happens at the game table, not between the pages of a book. If I play some d20 again, that's honestly that culture of sodomizing shit flies that I will totally steer clear from. Total theoretical bullshit from OCD-types to me.

Well, it helps if what's in the book matches how you play. A lot of people think rogues are weak because they never have solo missions or traps. I think sorcerers and wizards are too powerful because I don't run enough fights to run them out of spells, nor do I punish them with black swan events for novaing. Sure, you can balance at the table, but for me it's way, way more fun to balance the book for my table.

Nightfall · August 13, 2011, 02:09:30 AM

Crane,

I find that some wizards/sorcerers CAN run out of spells IF you play the monster JUST right.

Like having a high SR alongside having other monsters with SR...makes it that much more difficult to toss out chain lighting.

Pseudoephedrine · August 13, 2011, 02:23:12 AM

People don't want to play shitty classes, except maybe as a lark once in a while. Nor do I blame then, since in-the-game-world characters are often trying to accumulate personal power as well. Who would choose to suck IRL if they had the choice of being awesome? Having non-ass classes gives people more real options to choose from. Balance provides those options.

ggroy · August 13, 2011, 02:28:41 AM

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;473583Who would choose to suck IRL if they had the choice of being awesome?

Offline IRL unrelated to rpg games, there are some people who would deliberately take an "inferior choice" instead of taking the "awesome choice".

This could happen if the "awesome choice" involves a lot more work, responsibilities, duties, commitment, etc ... in comparison to an "inferior choice".

Nightfall · August 13, 2011, 02:41:11 AM

I choose Oracle.

Pseudoephedrine · August 13, 2011, 11:07:50 PM

Quote from: ggroy;473584Offline IRL unrelated to rpg games, there are some people who would deliberately take an "inferior choice" instead of taking the "awesome choice".

This could happen if the "awesome choice" involves a lot more work, responsibilities, duties, commitment, etc ... in comparison to an "inferior choice".

Why would those people be adventuring in the first place? Especially in the medieval era, when it's a total pain in the ass?

ggroy · August 13, 2011, 11:25:41 PM

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;473708Why would those people be adventuring in the first place? Especially in the medieval era, when it's a total pain in the ass?

Are you speaking about in the present day or centuries ago?

(That is if I misunderstood your original point).

Nightfall · August 14, 2011, 01:03:11 AM

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;473708Why would those people be adventuring in the first place? Especially in the medieval era, when it's a total pain in the ass?

It beats dying of small pox or something worse?

Olive · August 14, 2011, 02:43:13 AM

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;473708Why would those people be adventuring in the first place? Especially in the medieval era, when it's a total pain in the ass?

Thrust into it by fate!

Pseudoephedrine · August 14, 2011, 02:47:58 AM

Quote from: Olive;473730Thrust into it by fate!

Ugh.

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