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TheShadowSpawn

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Re: Dwarven Forge...
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2021, 04:06:09 PM »
Awesome! That's pretty much exactly what I was wondering.


Now... I'm walking away thinking, not only am I going to do Dwarven Forge... I'm eyeballing 3d printers. Galactus had no chance...

I just spent the last few months really getting to know all the ins and outs of 3d Printing. I'm no master, but I have learned quite a bit along the way.  If you have any questions or need some insight into the extra costs/supplies that come with it don't hesitate to ask.

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« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2021, 04:16:33 PM »
Now... I'm walking away thinking, not only am I going to do Dwarven Forge... I'm eyeballing 3d printers. Galactus had no chance...
The 3D stuff is not bad. I had a friend print me a green devil face that painted up nicely for Tomb of Horrors. As for 3D Printers in general the biggest issue is print time in volume. And then you have to paint them. If you have enough cash for your hobby, the ideal is to go with manufactured for your bulk terrain, and then 3d print the specials to get your variety.

Also look at etsy
https://www.etsy.com/search?q=dungeons+and+dragons+miniature&explicit=1&ref=s2qit&s2qii=3&s2qit=as&prq=dungeons+and+dragons

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Re: Dwarven Forge...
« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2021, 04:23:34 PM »
Now... I'm walking away thinking, not only am I going to do Dwarven Forge... I'm eyeballing 3d printers. Galactus had no chance...
The 3D stuff is not bad. I had a friend print me a green devil face that painted up nicely for Tomb of Horrors. As for 3D Printers in general the biggest issue is print time in volume. And then you have to paint them. If you have enough cash for your hobby, the ideal is to go with manufactured for your bulk terrain, and then 3d print the specials to get your variety.

Also look at etsy
https://www.etsy.com/search?q=dungeons+and+dragons+miniature&explicit=1&ref=s2qit&s2qii=3&s2qit=as&prq=dungeons+and+dragons

There's actually a lot of supporting materials and setup that go into 3D Printing. Most importantly, a workstation that allows you to safely handle the resin and IPA that you will be using during the curing and cleaning process. There are a LOT of little mistakes you make along the way that can end up adding up.

I can work up a shopping list if anyone is interested.

I agree though , I buy my larger terrain from FDM printers, and print smaller things for my personal needs.

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Re: Dwarven Forge...
« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2021, 10:53:48 PM »
I have an FDM 3D Printer (Anycubic) and I get some decent monsters out of it.  Mostly monsters and low-def stuff, but my Tiamat paid for it.



After watching "Ultimate Dungeon Terrain for D&D & Pathfinder! (Ep. #67)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQqhTiE7i84 this is my go-to: 
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Your Forgotten Realms was my first The Last Jedi.

If the party is gonna die, they want to be riding and blasting/hacking away at a separate one of Tiamat's heads as she plummets towards earth with broken wings while Solars and Planars sing.

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« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2021, 11:01:33 PM »


I'm just bad at this picture sharing.  https://photos.app.goo.gl/31NzNhwyUZ6R3rQw7
Your Forgotten Realms was my first The Last Jedi.

If the party is gonna die, they want to be riding and blasting/hacking away at a separate one of Tiamat's heads as she plummets towards earth with broken wings while Solars and Planars sing.

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« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2021, 03:19:09 PM »
Okay you know it's a good print if I can see in your muddy picture your figure and instantly recognize the dragon types by their heads.

Yeah I've put it down on my list. 3d printing will be happening at some point in the near future.

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« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2021, 04:08:36 PM »
https://www.etsy.com/shop/myrdin3d/

This is my small store. Unless you enjoy the process and the hobby, it is a matter of overcoming the initial cost and the time. Each wall plus 5’ floor section takes about 4 hours to print. Those are all FDM, including the miniatures. The store pictures are fairly high resolution and close so you can see the printing artifacts.

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« Reply #52 on: September 17, 2021, 04:12:41 PM »
So how toxic is the resin and the products? Give us the scoop!

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« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2021, 04:33:50 PM »
So how toxic is the resin and the products? Give us the scoop!

This article is one of many that talk about resin toxicity: https://all3dp.com/2/sla-3d-printing-is-3d-printer-resin-toxic/. 3D printing resin falls somewhere between Chernobyl and a can of Coke it would seem :)

I'm not an expert, but the main thing with resin is not to inhale the fumes and not to touch it. In rare cases, you can apparently develop an allergy to plastic/resins by repeatedly coming in contact with uncured resin. Regardless, it's still an irritant on your skin. When I print with resin I have a supply of nitrile gloves and 99% IPA for clean up. I also have my printer in a workshop behind my garage so I don't have to worry about fumes in the house.

Printer filters have gotten better over the past couple of years, and I believe the resins have been improved. There are resins that are plant-based and others that are water washable, so I imagine those are less toxic than typical resins, but probably still not something you want to take a swig of :) The key really is just to be careful and use common sense.

The other thing to keep in mind is that once the resin is cured, it's no more toxic than regular plastic.

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« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2021, 04:43:24 PM »
So how toxic is the resin and the products? Give us the scoop!

They are an irritant more than anything. Think of most cleaning chemicals. Use in a well ventilated space and use gloves when you handle it. If you get it on your skin, wash it off right away with soap and water.

Not a huge deal unless you are or develop a sensitivity to it.

I have 3 different ones in my garage,

Need room temps (low 70's/ 20/21 depending on what system you use). Warmer is OK, the cooler it gets the less well the resin works.

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« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2021, 04:56:34 PM »
I was just wondering if they were toxic-toxic - like carcinogenic or something. As I live in TX, being "too cold" won't be an issue for me unless it's the dead of winter, but even then I have a crafting room I'd likely put this machine in.

Hows the odor? Will it permanently stink up a room?

Or is this strictly a garage thing?

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« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2021, 05:01:57 PM »
All comes to how well ventilated the room is. Plenty of people use them in their apartment. I barely notice the resin smell but the isopropyl alcohol (IPA) I do notice. You use IPA to clean the print and those fumes are flamable so I would crack open a window at least.

For the most part the fumes are more there when the resin is exposed to air and then go away. There is a cover over the printer, so when you load it up and take it off.

Think like primer paint or varish from a can. Noticible right when you use it and then goes away.

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« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2021, 05:09:45 PM »
There seem to be two camps on the resin fumes. Some people will set up elaborate venting systems to pull the fumes from the printer and send them out a window. Others just leave the printer as-is. I don't know enough about the fumes to know whether the venting is wise or overly-paranoid. My experience with the fumes is similar to Myrdin's (and the IPA smell is always stronger, though I'm not concerned about IPA "fumes"). The fumes still aren't healthy, so I generally just try to stay out of the room the printer is in while it's printing. I do wear a KN95 mask (extras from work for Covid) when I've got the cover to the printer off, but I don't know how necessary that is (I often wear a mask when I'm priming terrain with spray paint as well, but that's mainly because of the smell of the paint).

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« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2021, 05:12:12 PM »
All comes to how well ventilated the room is. Plenty of people use them in their apartment. I barely notice the resin smell but the isopropyl alcohol (IPA) I do notice. You use IPA to clean the print and those fumes are flamable so I would crack open a window at least.

For the most part the fumes are more there when the resin is exposed to air and then go away. There is a cover over the printer, so when you load it up and take it off.

Think like primer paint or varish from a can. Noticible right when you use it and then goes away.

So liable to close down my windpipe so tight I almost suffocate?

That happened to me once when we had a hardwood floor and were trying to re-varnish it ourselves, I almost died.
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Re: Dwarven Forge...
« Reply #59 on: September 17, 2021, 05:38:08 PM »
Okay you know it's a good print if I can see in your muddy picture your figure and instantly recognize the dragon types by their heads.

Well,

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dragons-color-coded-for-your-convenience/msg1146694/#msg1146694

FDM is decent for big monsters, terrain and other DM shenanigans.  I'll echo the part about resin for detail, but FDM is just melting plastic and layering it a little at a time, so those of you with cats or youngins would benefit.  Clean up is a snap.
Your Forgotten Realms was my first The Last Jedi.

If the party is gonna die, they want to be riding and blasting/hacking away at a separate one of Tiamat's heads as she plummets towards earth with broken wings while Solars and Planars sing.