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Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: estar on April 30, 2013, 05:17:27 PM
Only four hours left if you are a fan of miniatures and props.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dwarvenforge/dwarven-forges-game-tiles-revolutionary-miniature

I got in at the 5 set level and some add-ons.
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: Mistwell on April 30, 2013, 05:34:21 PM
I got two sets.

I also like this kickstarter:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/554948184/itars-workshop-dungeon-terrain

I am in for $40 in accessories from them, and they arrive around the same time as the DF kickstarter stuff arrives, and work well with them (the accessories that is).
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: thedungeondelver on April 30, 2013, 06:07:36 PM
I think this is fantastic.  I'm a huge fan of Dwarven Forge from back in the day.  Stefan is a gamer geek extraordinaire and even the most basic DF sets really bring the table to life.  One day I'll post up some photos of "famous" dungeon crawls I've done with my setups...
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: Mistwell on April 30, 2013, 06:14:00 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;650838I think this is fantastic.  I'm a huge fan of Dwarven Forge from back in the day.  Stefan is a gamer geek extraordinaire and even the most basic DF sets really bring the table to life.  One day I'll post up some photos of "famous" dungeon crawls I've done with my setups...

Would love to see that. I am really liking some of these (this is all from Hirst Arts molds):

(http://www.paladincompanies.com/ds-storage/ha-forum-pics/caveman_04.bmp)
(http://www.paladincompanies.com/ds-storage/ha-forum-pics/caveman_02.bmp)
(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x336/ghalgor/Small%20brick%20dungeon/DSCF3224.jpg)
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: thedungeondelver on April 30, 2013, 07:29:21 PM
If you have the time and the dedication, Hirst Arts can be absolutely beautiful.  I weighed how much casting and building I would really do, and as such I went with Dwarven Forge.
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: Benoist on April 30, 2013, 08:18:59 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;650865If you have the time and the dedication, Hirst Arts can be absolutely beautiful.  I weighed how much casting and building I would really do, and as such I went with Dwarven Forge.

Same thing. When I started with full blown 3D terrain some 10 years ago or so, I couldn't do everything, so I went with DF early on. I still would like to do some Hirst Arts at some point, however, specifically to enhance what I already have of Dwarven Forge.
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: estar on April 30, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
I got a couple of hirst arts molds as well a year ago. I bought the small bricks and the accessories molds as I use them to make props.

The blog post show the most elaborate thing I built so far.

http://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2012/12/making-christmas-gifts-out-of-hirst.html
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: taustin on May 01, 2013, 02:07:05 AM
Quote from: estar;650895I got a couple of hirst arts molds as well a year ago. I bought the small bricks and the accessories molds as I use them to make props.

The blog post show the most elaborate thing I built so far.

http://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2012/12/making-christmas-gifts-out-of-hirst.html

I still have a bunch of Hirst molds somewhere. Wish I had the room (and time) to get back in to it.
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: Bobloblah on May 01, 2013, 10:12:49 AM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;650865If you have the time and the dedication, Hirst Arts can be absolutely beautiful.  I weighed how much casting and building I would really do, and as such I went with Dwarven Forge.

Quote from: Benoist;650885Same thing. When I started with full blown 3D terrain some 10 years ago or so, I couldn't do everything, so I went with DF early on. I still would like to do some Hirst Arts at some point, however, specifically to enhance what I already have of Dwarven Forge.

I made a similar decision a few years ago, but in my case it was for wargames terrain; I'll simply never have the time to paint (and build!) the terrain I want, so i don't touch anything that isn't pre-painted.

I agonized over the last ten minutes of the Dwarven Forge Kickstarter. In the end, I decided to hold off. One of the things that made me hesitate was the fact that it looks difficult to build 10' corridors (i.e. 2 squares wide). Anyone else have any insight on that? Did I miss something?
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: Benoist on May 01, 2013, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: Bobloblah;650971I made a similar decision a few years ago, but in my case it was for wargames terrain; I'll simply never have the time to paint (and build!) the terrain I want, so i don't touch anything that isn't pre-painted.

I agonized over the last ten minutes of the Dwarven Forge Kickstarter. In the end, I decided to hold off. One of the things that made me hesitate was the fact that it looks difficult to build 10' corridors (i.e. 2 squares wide). Anyone else have any insight on that? Did I miss something?

The passage set wasn't part of the kickstarter. Look for the room and passage set on this page. (http://www.dwarvenforge.com/classic-dungeon-sets?page=shop.browse&category_id=4)

Now I suspect the state of the stock (and types of sets available) will evolve in the near future, post-kickstarter.

With the kickstarter pieces, you could have some 10' corridors by using straight walls pieces and free-standing walls for horizontal/vertical corridors, and you just use diagonal walls next to each other for diagonal corridors.
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: Bobloblah on May 01, 2013, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: Benoist;650984The passage set wasn't part of the kickstarter. Look for the room and passage set on this page.
Thanks for the link. I've seen that before. Still doesn't look like it does much for 10' wide corridors. My understanding of the scale of the Dwarven Forge stuff (I've only seen it in person a couple times) is that it's approximately one square (i.e. one floor tile) equals 5' for 25-28mm scale miniatures. Assuming that's correct, 10' corridors are two tiles wide. Virtually every dungeon I've ever used or designed had an awful lot of these.

Now, I don't need to be able to lay out the entire dungeon at once, but a few adjoining rooms and all the connecting corridors is the minimum I'd want. It looks like the bottleneck with all these sets are those 10' corridors. Even in the Kickstarter, there simply weren't enough freestanding wall pieces to deal with this.

I've seen pictures you've posted of setups you've made with Dwarven Forge stuff; how do you handle lots of 10' corridors that don't adjoin rooms?
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: thedungeondelver on May 01, 2013, 11:35:01 AM
Quote from: Bobloblah;650987Thanks for the link. I've seen that before. Still doesn't look like it does much for 10' wide corridors. My understanding of the scale of the Dwarven Forge stuff (I've only seen it in person a couple times) is that it's approximately one square (i.e. one floor tile) equals 5' for 25-28mm scale miniatures. Assuming that's correct, 10' corridors are two tiles wide. Virtually every dungeon I've ever used or designed had an awful lot of these.

Now, I don't need to be able to lay out the entire dungeon at once, but a few adjoining rooms and all the connecting corridors is the minimum I'd want. It looks like the bottleneck with all these sets are those 10' corridors. Even in the Kickstarter, there simply weren't enough freestanding wall pieces to deal with this.

I've seen pictures you've posted of setups you've made with Dwarven Forge stuff; how do you handle lots of 10' corridors that don't adjoin rooms?

Their supplies are kind of squirrely but when they have them in, getting a box of 6" hallways is the way to go.
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: Baron on May 01, 2013, 07:52:18 PM
I'm not big on Kickstarter. As they say, it's not a store; you're gambling your money.

I like to use miniatures, and I'm considering these guys:
http://www.dungeonstone.com/ (http://www.dungeonstone.com/)
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: Bobloblah on May 02, 2013, 09:36:28 AM
Quote from: Baron;651204I'm not big on Kickstarter. As they say, it's not a store; you're gambling your money.
While this is technically true, I think it's a little overstated in this case. The Dwarven Forge Kickstarter, along with the likes of the Bones Kickstarter from Reaper, are really little more than a pre-order system for established companies at this point. Obviously, it's a little more than that (i.e. interest free loan repaid in product), but from a consumer perspective that's more or less it.
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: Mistwell on May 02, 2013, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: Baron;651204I'm not big on Kickstarter. As they say, it's not a store; you're gambling your money.

I like to use miniatures, and I'm considering these guys:
http://www.dungeonstone.com/ (http://www.dungeonstone.com/)

It's not gambling with Dwarven Forge.  This isn't some start-up, it's a very well established company, and I see zero risk.

I like DungeonStone as well, but their stuff is a bit more expensive, and more fragile, than the stuff from this Dwarven Forge kickstarter (which wen't for around $0.84/piece, and you can run a truck over a piece and it will not break).
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: crkrueger on May 02, 2013, 03:07:13 PM
Quote from: Baron;651204I'm not big on Kickstarter. As they say, it's not a store; you're gambling your money.

I like to use miniatures, and I'm considering these guys:
http://www.dungeonstone.com/ (http://www.dungeonstone.com/)

Hmm, they say 1"=5 ft for 25mm figures.

Can you actually fit two "heroic scale" 28-30mm Games Workshop figures in a 10' hallway?
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: crkrueger on May 02, 2013, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: Bobloblah;651359While this is technically true, I think it's a little overstated in this case. The Dwarven Forge Kickstarter, along with the likes of the Bones Kickstarter from Reaper, are really little more than a pre-order system for established companies at this point. Obviously, it's a little more than that (i.e. interest free loan repaid in product), but from a consumer perspective that's more or less it.

Also since they wanted 50 thousand and got 1.8 million, pretty sure they can fill the order. :D
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: Mistwell on May 02, 2013, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;651493Also since they wanted 50 thousand and got 1.8 million, pretty sure they can fill the order. :D

$1,908,155 at the final tally.
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: The Traveller on May 02, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;651493Also since they wanted 50 thousand and got 1.8 million, pretty sure they can fill the order. :D
Their production facilities will be swamped for the next few months I'd say. There's good money in this miniatures business!
Title: Dwarven Forge Kickstarter
Post by: RPGPundit on May 11, 2013, 02:48:35 AM
Quote from: The Traveller;651544Their production facilities will be swamped for the next few months I'd say. There's good money in this miniatures business!

Clearly. Particularly with KS, its a winning proposition.