Jebus, they give an award when something sells 51 copies?

Where does one even see these medals?

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1062689I was under the impression that the classic world was more popular than the new world. Although the numbers for the metals suggests that the numbers are actually quite small in general. There are millions of people in the hobby and in the digital/POD era the most popular games have only sold a few thousand copies at most? Clearly the audience for these games must be very small.

Not that I am particularly interested since I perceive the whole X of Darkness as suffering from systemic problems with the rules and fluff that prevent me from consuming it. There are better indie games out there now.

Well remember, the Classic went out of Print back in 2003. There wasn't a new classic product until Vampire the Masquerade 20th anniversary edition in 2011, and that didn't even get sold on drive thru originally.

So Nwod now Chronicles has had a helluva head start.

There was only Nwod products on drive thru in that interim period before they began to migrate some of the old pdfs over.

Quote from: Rhedyn;1062704Where does one even see these medals?

*snip* Click here. That'll explain them in rough detail, but they don't give you exact numbers.

Quote from: Gypsy Knights Games;1062397The metal awards have been:

Copper 51-100
Silver 101-250
Electrum 251-500
Gold 501-1000
Platinum 1001+

I'm not sure what Mithral and Adamantine work out to be but my guess would be that Platinum is now 1001-2500, Mithril is 2501-5000 and Adamantine is 5001+.

Hmm I dont think these are quite right, or Midlands would be gold, but it is showing electrum on DTRPG

Quote from: Psikerlord;1062798Hmm I dont think these are quite right, or Midlands would be gold, but it is showing electrum on DTRPG

The DTRPG people haven't given numbers, but they have said that it's not a flat doubling of the previous tier anymore. To go up a tier requires more, but . . . how much more is the question.

Quote from: GeekEclectic;1062836The DTRPG people haven't given numbers, but they have said that it's not a flat doubling of the previous tier anymore. To go up a tier requires more, but . . . how much more is the question.

Yeah I thought I read something like that too

Quote from: Psikerlord;1062798Hmm I dont think these are quite right, or Midlands would be gold, but it is showing electrum on DTRPG

It's entirely possible that they made other changes of which I haven't been aware.  I was under the impression that they just added the top two levels.

Quote from: GeekEclectic;1062836The DTRPG people haven't given numbers, but they have said that it's not a flat doubling of the previous tier anymore. To go up a tier requires more, but . . . how much more is the question.

Don't know if I'll get an answer or not but, upon reading your responses, I've put in a request for the actual numbers.  I guess we'll see what I get as a response.

And here's the response:

Copper: 51-100 units sold
Silver: 101-250
Electrum: 251-500
Gold: 501-1000
Platinum: 1,001-2,500
Mithral: 2,501-5,000
Adamantine: 5,001 or more

Same. We just expanded it.

No extra requirements.

Quote from: Rhedyn;1062704Where does one even see these medals?

They are on each product's page which has earned one.  So, if you look on a product's page on the top right, if the product has earned a medal it will be located there.  

Also, as GeekEclectic pointed out, you can see the major ones here: https://www.drivethrurpg.com/metal.php

Quote from: Gypsy Knights Games;1062908And here's the response:

Copper: 51-100 units sold
Silver: 101-250
Electrum: 251-500
Gold: 501-1000
Platinum: 1,001-2,500
Mithral: 2,501-5,000
Adamantine: 5,001 or more

Same. We just expanded it.

No extra requirements.

"How do you make a small fortune in RPGs? Start with a medium fortune."

It's both sad and encouraging that RPGs will always be primarily the hobby projects of professionals in other industries.

Quote from: Rhedyn;1062914"How do you make a small fortune in RPGs? Start with a medium fortune."

It's both sad and encouraging that RPGs will always be primarily the hobby projects of professionals in other industries.

Looking at Zweihander they raised a lot of money on Kickstarter to pay for artwork and layout. It helps to know how to run a business to make a good rpg tho because at this point the Zweihander guy seems to be crushing it. They raised a lot on their new rpg Main Gauche as well.

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1062395Zweihander has been the deal of the day almost every other week. I suppose the ranking makes sense in light of that.

Deal of the day is supposed to be a good way to generate sales (I've generally heard positive things about that feature). The challenge of it for most companies is it costs a lot of publisher points (something like 457 point presently on both RPGnow and Drivethru). That is a large amount. Most people either have to save up for a very long time to get to that point (not spending on banners and other features) or have a massive success out of the gate which can result in a large pool (not sure if 457 is feasible in a single month or not but the more you sell the more publisher points you get each month). You can also buy publisher points but they are 1 dollar per point. So presently deal of the day would cost a publisher $457 (the return probably wouldn't be worth it for most products I am guessing).

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1063074Deal of the day is supposed to be a good way to generate sales (I've generally heard positive things about that feature). The challenge of it for most companies is it costs a lot of publisher points (something like 457 point presently on both RPGnow and Drivethru). That is a large amount. Most people either have to save up for a very long time to get to that point (not spending on banners and other features) or have a massive success out of the gate which can result in a large pool (not sure if 457 is feasible in a single month or not but the more you sell the more publisher points you get each month). You can also buy publisher points but they are 1 dollar per point. So presently deal of the day would cost a publisher $457 (the return probably wouldn't be worth it for most products I am guessing).

It costs a lot from what I understand. That is why I do not buy the bullshit that Zweihander somehow padded their sales b/c pub points are expensive and it requires a lot to be DOTD. Zweihander was like DOTD 14 times last year.