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Author Topic: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination  (Read 2398 times)

Ghostmaker

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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2021, 10:17:44 AM »
They should be requiring obese gamers to prove they are on a diet.  Diabetes and heart disease are a far greater risk than covid to the majority of the gaming community. 

Or maybe they should inspect everyone's armpits before entering to make sure that they have bathed and put on deodorant before entering.   ;)
A lot of conventions actually do require you to practice basic hygiene, upon pain of expulsion or worse, being bodily carried off and thrown into a hotel swimming pool.

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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2021, 10:24:22 AM »
They should be requiring obese gamers to prove they are on a diet.  Diabetes and heart disease are a far greater risk than covid to the majority of the gaming community. 

Or maybe they should inspect everyone's armpits before entering to make sure that they have bathed and put on deodorant before entering.   ;)
A lot of conventions actually do require you to practice basic hygiene, upon pain of expulsion or worse, being bodily carried off and thrown into a hotel swimming pool.

   I went to Gen Con back in 2016, I have to say if they have a requirement along those lines, I sure as hell would not want to be there if they didnt have a requirement, because I felt surrounded by catpiss men.

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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2021, 10:25:33 AM »
They should be requiring obese gamers to prove they are on a diet.  Diabetes and heart disease are a far greater risk than covid to the majority of the gaming community. 

Or maybe they should inspect everyone's armpits before entering to make sure that they have bathed and put on deodorant before entering.   ;)
Do you think obesity and diabetes are communicable?

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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2021, 10:27:18 AM »
They should be requiring obese gamers to prove they are on a diet.  Diabetes and heart disease are a far greater risk than covid to the majority of the gaming community. 

Or maybe they should inspect everyone's armpits before entering to make sure that they have bathed and put on deodorant before entering.   ;)
Do you think obesity and diabetes are communicable?

  being fat makes covid deadly.  His point is if they are going to be concerned over health, might as well cover all the health issues, especially the most preventable.

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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2021, 10:37:09 AM »
They should be requiring obese gamers to prove they are on a diet.  Diabetes and heart disease are a far greater risk than covid to the majority of the gaming community. 

Or maybe they should inspect everyone's armpits before entering to make sure that they have bathed and put on deodorant before entering.   ;)
Do you think obesity and diabetes are communicable?

  being fat makes covid deadly.  His point is if they are going to be concerned over health, might as well cover all the health issues, especially the most preventable.
That's not what he said.

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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2021, 11:05:05 AM »
And what of those of us who had COVID, and have antibodies? We are actually LESS likely to get or spread the virus, yet are being actively discriminated against.

Here in Italy having had COVID counts as "one vaccination". After a few months you get the second shot and - after two weeks (*) - you are ready to go. Dunno about the States.

No big Conventions over here, even if we are slowly reopening and things do seem fine. I'll go to a clinic, instead, to fix an annoying physical problem. I endured with it for a couple of months because for no reason (except life-threatening circumstances) I would have entered a clinic during COVID without at least a shot. Same for a Convention Others' mileage can vary.

(*) "Two weeks" does seem to be the rule for the vaccine to work. I got my first shot of Moderna two Mondays ago, so literally today I'm fully "80% protected". I'll get the second shot on Jun, 28th, which will made the protection permanent and up it to 94.1%. Or so I'm told.
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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2021, 11:38:17 AM »
And what of those of us who had COVID, and have antibodies? We are actually LESS likely to get or spread the virus, yet are being actively discriminated against.

Guess it's no cons for me.

While less likely than the general populace - I don't think that's as solid as the vaccine.

Are there a bunch of anti-vaxxers on this board? I don't understand why getting a vaccine that may save your life and will help let society re-open is such a burden that you would avoid going to a gaming con that you otherwise would like to.

It's got nothing to do with being anti-vaxx. I don't want to take these experimental vaccines until they have full FDA approval and are not protected by the PREP act.
The government and corporations should take their fair share of responsibility for experimental vaccinations.

Okay - you do you. But if everyone did that - we'd be having another 600k COVID deaths in the next year or two. Yay! Hopefully we reach herd immunity without you.

This particular MRNA vaccine hasn't been fully tested - but MRNA vaccines are a known factor - and there should likely be a permanent expedited approval process for them.

Anywho - I'll bow out here I guess. Not really gaming related at this point.
It's not like the convention's being run by Andrew Cuomo.

Incidentially, it seems DragonCon has taken a less obnoxious tack:

"Additionally, under Georgia law, there is no liability for an injury or death of an individual on or off the premises of one of the Convention hotels or Dragon Con venues if such injury or death results from the inherent risks of contracting COVID-19. By attending Dragon Con, you accept that you are assuming the risk by entering the premises and participating in Dragon Con activities. You also acknowledge that there is a risk of injury or death from Covid-19 that you may contract during your travel to or from the Convention or any Dragon Con venues. You accept the risk of contracting Covid-19 or transmitting Covid-19 to others as a result of travel to or from the Convention or any Dragon Con venue."
(from the DragonCon policy section, https://www.dragoncon.org/about/dragon-con-policies/ )

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IMO thats the best way to deal with it. Remind people they are grown assed adults and should be responsible for their own actions. If youre scared of the virus, don't go to conventions.

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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2021, 11:47:03 AM »
IMO thats the best way to deal with it. Remind people they are grown assed adults and should be responsible for their own actions. If youre scared of the virus, don't go to conventions.
Exactly. We do know that superspreader events are a major vector for the transmission of covid-19, and they're overwhelmingly indoor mass gatherings where people are in close proximity and talk to each other -- so gaming conventions are almost the perfect match. No incremental precautions will eliminate that risk, so be aware and make an informed decision. If you're really worried, you shouldn't go to a Con.

But in a sane world, Cons would be talking more about things like ventilation systems and less about masks, because we know it's primarily transmitted through aerosolization, not large droplets.
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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2021, 12:34:20 PM »
Considering how insanely fast and lethal this thing can be. Taking precautions seems pretty understandable. Especially at cons where theres alot of people concentrated. That is going to exponentially increase the chances something going bad or really bad for someone attending.

A group locally last week met up. They all had been vaccinated but still makes me uneasy so soon.

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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2021, 12:40:51 PM »
I want to see your bank records to make sure you haven't spent money on anything that my be socially destructive.  Oh, and I get to define what that is.  Fuck off with that noise!

Try to enter the UK in this "after Brexit" world, and you will find just that.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/27/eu-tourists-condemn-uk-border-officials-humiliating-treatment



No more Conventions or trips in UK for me after this.
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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2021, 01:03:08 PM »
And what of those of us who had COVID, and have antibodies? We are actually LESS likely to get or spread the virus, yet are being actively discriminated against.

Guess it's no cons for me.

Worth bitching about to con organizers I think. This type of thing is really going to split society.


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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2021, 01:08:44 PM »
They should be requiring obese gamers to prove they are on a diet.  Diabetes and heart disease are a far greater risk than covid to the majority of the gaming community. 

Or maybe they should inspect everyone's armpits before entering to make sure that they have bathed and put on deodorant before entering.   ;)


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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2021, 01:18:27 PM »
I want to see your bank records to make sure you haven't spent money on anything that my be socially destructive.  Oh, and I get to define what that is.  Fuck off with that noise!

Try to enter the UK in this "after Brexit" world, and you will find just that.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/27/eu-tourists-condemn-uk-border-officials-humiliating-treatment



No more Conventions or trips in UK for me after this.
I hate to be a dick about this, Reckall, but the UK has a point here.

'Sergio' (assuming that's his real name) has no employment, limited funds, and has no return transit (plane, train, or automobile) secured. I'd be awfully suspicious too.

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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2021, 01:25:12 PM »
If you read Dr. Anthony Fauci's emails, he argues that C-19 is a significant threat to people 70+ with preexisting comorbidities, but is actually less dangerous than the seasonal flu for most demographics. Anyone treating this as anything more than what it is -- a flu -- is not aligned with the science.


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Re: Dragonflight convention requires mRNA vaccination
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2021, 01:28:25 PM »
Considering how insanely fast and lethal this thing can be.

How insanely fast and lethal is Covid-19?
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