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Designers & Dragons: The Complete 4 Hardcover Set (is it good or filled with SoJus?)

Started by HMWHC, October 01, 2016, 08:28:07 PM

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Alzrius

Quote from: The_Shadow;923009Seems odd that the contribution of women required a dedicated section rather than coming in organically during the telling of the tale...rather patronizing. If I write the history of 1980s Britain, Maggie will be all over it, I don't need a "women were there too!" section...

Unless I'm mistaken, Daztur is referencing a separate article that Jon Peterson, the author of Playing at the World, wrote. This is not an excerpt from the full book; rather, this is simply him writing a brief (for him) piece on the subject.
"...player narration and DM fiat fall apart whenever there's anything less than an incredibly high level of trust for the DM. The general trend of D&D's design up through the end of 4e is to erase dependence on player-DM trust as much as possible, not to create antagonism, but to insulate both sides from it when it appears." - Brandes Stoddard

Daztur

Quote from: Alzrius;923098Unless I'm mistaken, Daztur is referencing a separate article that Jon Peterson, the author of Playing at the World, wrote. This is not an excerpt from the full book; rather, this is simply him writing a brief (for him) piece on the subject.

You're right I got those mixed up. Was very impressed at how meticulous the research for that article was which speaks well for the author's book.

Omega

Quote from: TristramEvans;922986A while ago the author came by this forum looking to do research on the OSR and was promptly and viciously run out of town...

I missed this? Was he tarred and feathered too? Or was it an angry mob with pitchforks and torches?

Tod13

Quote from: Omega;923163I missed this? Was he tarred and feathered too? Or was it an angry mob with pitchforks and torches?

I'm going with: sarcastic trolls with knitting needles...

Kellri

Quote from: Omega;923163I missed this? Was he tarred and feathered too? Or was it an angry mob with pitchforks and torches?

No he wasn't viciously run out of town. There was vigorous and open discussion: the kind of vigorous and open discussion that would be next to impossible to have on the author's own public forum because of the repressive culture he himself helped create there. It's also worth pointing out that Appelcline initiated things when he contacted Stuart via private email - to which Stuart chose to respond to both privately and publicly (namely here). At that point, Appelcline chose to come here and respond. To put it bluntly, Appelcline is not an aggrieved party, nor should he expect to treated as one. He's a professional writer who injected himself into a situation long before his subsequent questions resulted in a hostile response. When that happens, one ought to expect certain people are going to tell you to get fucked.  

On a personal note, I've spent 6 years of my life interviewing real life war-criminals. A number of those interviews became quite hostile when the person in question either didn't like my questions, my nationality, my ethnicity, my politics or just didn't like me personally. You don't just ask a guy to talk about that time he smashed infants to death against a tree without the expectation that he might not want to answer that kind of question from a foreign stranger when he's sitting in his home village. You can bet your ass I didn't turn to his neighbors and bitch and moan that this truculent asshole was trying to stop me from writing my book for no rational reason.  

Appelcline apparently doesn't or won't accept that there are some very valid reasons certain people might not want to answer his questions. In my professional opinion, he should either grow the fuck up or at the very least develop the journalistic chops to handle it better.
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