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How long would it take to level up in gold=xp games?

Started by mAcular Chaotic, September 26, 2017, 04:00:01 AM

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mAcular Chaotic

#60
October 04, 2017, 02:58:40 PM
Well, the 19th level wizard taking forever to level up makes sense. After a certain point you peak.
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#61
October 04, 2017, 03:17:06 PM
Right, and that was the intent.  But lots of people apparently didn't take the hint (or, more accurately, didn't want that kind of game.)
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Gronan of Simmerya

#62
October 04, 2017, 03:19:01 PM
If I ever get a PC that high again, I'll change what they get XP for.  A 19th level Wizard will get XP for successfully researching new spells.

Which takes a ton of gold and materials, but he's too busy with his other experiments.  So he sends his seneschal out to find somebody who will collect Xorn spleens for him.
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mAcular Chaotic

#63
October 05, 2017, 03:30:42 AM
If you're level 19, why even care about reaching 20 at that point. It's like having 10 billion dollars but mad you don't have 11 billion.
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#64
October 05, 2017, 08:38:08 AM
Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;998398If you're level 19, why even care about reaching 20 at that point. It's like having 10 billion dollars but mad you don't have 11 billion.

On some level, you probably don't. Or at least you are much more concerned about whether you have X magic item, Y army, or Z your most dangerous two enemies are busy fighting each other and not you.

Gronan of Simmerya

#65
October 05, 2017, 12:09:56 PM
Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;998398If you're level 19, why even care about reaching 20 at that point. It's like having 10 billion dollars but mad you don't have 11 billion.

Ted Turner donated a billion dollars to the UN.

A reporter asked him how much difference that would make to him.

He said, "I won't notice a billion dollars more or less.  But I'm going to start earning it back, because that's how my friends and I keep score."

Besides, every wizard in the world wants to be the first one to develop a 10th level spell.  And then an 11th level spell.
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RPGPundit

#66
October 07, 2017, 12:14:49 PM
Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;998121And we're back to "becoming a great Power of the Land" and the game shifting away from "Leveling Up."

"You're the Duke of Lessnard*.  You have castles, vassals, lands, and an army.  You are no longer a solo adventurer."  The game was to change at that point, but that turns out to be not what most people wanted.

Also, don't forget the reduction in XP when you take gold from a lower level creature.  What the hell does a 19th level wizard have to do to get enough gold to get 300,000 XP?  He's got to destroy or rob literally dozens of dragons singlehandedly to get that much gold.


*Gary once added Lessnard to the map of the Great Kingdom.  I wonder if I still have a copy of that...

Yeah, but gamers being gamers, to them the goal is almost always to become more powerful as characters. And for the most part, they see that in terms of leveling up.
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