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Does anyone here actually PLAY eclipse phase?

Started by matt swain, April 25, 2021, 05:46:44 PM

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matt swain

#45
April 26, 2021, 01:01:16 AM
Quote from: MyrddinWyllt on April 26, 2021, 01:00:01 AM
Woah there Matt. Realize that not everyone who voted for trump is alt right, far right nor an extremist.

As far as I'm concerned anyone who still supports that thing is someone I cannot co-exist with.
RPG.net is a cancer on the left and a disgrace to reasonable progressives that should be denounced and shunned by anyone considering themselves a progressive.

GeekyBugle

#46
April 26, 2021, 01:05:27 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 12:56:26 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on April 26, 2021, 12:42:40 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 25, 2021, 11:31:02 PM
Well, in the 10 years since ep 1e was done we've seen a rise in global fascist mentality, even (espically) in the good ol' US of A, so maybe the authors wanted to take a harder line against fascism.

I'm Ok with that. My idea of dealing with fascists involves bulldozers and lots of dirt.

I feel the same way about Commies.

That's OK. I have come to accept that the right in America has been brainwashed and propagandized to the point that an all out civil war in america is unavoidable at this point and the Trump right will either destroy and crush all who refuse to bow to it or the rest of America will destroy the Trump right.

Personally I decided I'd rather my side be the one left alive after the war ends.

And what's the final solution you advocate for?

LOL, you're on the side that's willing to kill those who think different, because they think different, and the fascists are the others?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

#47
April 26, 2021, 01:06:24 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 01:01:16 AM
Quote from: MyrddinWyllt on April 26, 2021, 01:00:01 AM
Woah there Matt. Realize that not everyone who voted for trump is alt right, far right nor an extremist.

As far as I'm concerned anyone who still supports that thing is someone I cannot co-exist with.

Haul them of to those cattle wagons heading for the concentration camps.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

This Guy

#48
April 26, 2021, 01:20:23 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 26, 2021, 01:06:24 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 01:01:16 AM
Quote from: MyrddinWyllt on April 26, 2021, 01:00:01 AM
Woah there Matt. Realize that not everyone who voted for trump is alt right, far right nor an extremist.

As far as I'm concerned anyone who still supports that thing is someone I cannot co-exist with.

Haul them of to those cattle wagons heading for the concentration camps.

look they wanted bleach to cure covid, we'll give em bleach to cure covid. See if it works for a bit.
I don\'t want to play with you.

HappyDaze

#49
April 26, 2021, 01:20:38 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 01:00:13 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on April 26, 2021, 12:17:38 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 25, 2021, 11:31:02 PM
Well, in the 10 years since ep 1e was done we've seen a rise in global fascist mentality, even (espically) in the good ol' US of A, so maybe the authors wanted to take a harder line against fascism.

I'm Ok with that. My idea of dealing with fascists involves bulldozers and lots of dirt.
In 1e, the Ultimates were among the few that protected the less massive masses of humanity from Exhumans and the like...actually they pretty much got the Jovian treatment except that they are heavily in favor of (controlled) transhumanism to ensure the future of mankind rather than going anti-transhumanism to ensure the future of mankind like the Jovians.

As much as they give both of these factions shit, earlier sources showed that these were both strong backers of Firewall--the assumed PC-moving patrons of the setting.

Hmm,  I hadn't noticed you could not play an ultimate anymore. Is it expressly forbidden or just not given a package? I. Mean you can buy a remade biomorph even tho it's the most expensive one. Now the exhumans are portrayed as evil slime to be sure. I think tge ultimares are a little less evil.
It's been awhile since I looked at 2e, but I remember the writers talking about how they intentionally wrote-out PC Ultimates. It's certainly not given a package even though radical uplifted animals that are effectively Ultimates in belief but are not derived from Homo sapiens are perfectly fine as PCs. Yeah, you can play a fascist ape but not a fascist human.

matt swain

#50
April 26, 2021, 01:29:34 AM Last Edit: April 26, 2021, 01:31:14 AM by matt swain
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 26, 2021, 01:06:24 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 01:01:16 AM
Quote from: MyrddinWyllt on April 26, 2021, 01:00:01 AM
Woah there Matt. Realize that not everyone who voted for trump is alt right, far right nor an extremist.

As far as I'm concerned anyone who still supports that thing is someone I cannot co-exist with.

Haul them of to those cattle wagons heading for the concentration camps.

If that's what they want to do to people like me and the only way to stop them is to do it to them first,  then yes.

I lost all ability to tolerate tge far right when a major Trump supporter named couy Griffin cheerfully told a crowd of good Christian trump supporters 'the only good demoract is a dead Democrat' and they cheered. No significant figure or organization on the right ever uttered a word in protest or condemnation against him.

Fox news blew head gaskets over Maxine Waters comments on the chauvin trial but never said a word about this.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-twitter-today-cowboy-democrat-dead-couy-griffin-tweets-a9537016.html

So that's whenni realized people like me need to see tge Trump right as a hostile enemy and a threat.
RPG.net is a cancer on the left and a disgrace to reasonable progressives that should be denounced and shunned by anyone considering themselves a progressive.

matt swain

#51
April 26, 2021, 01:32:47 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 26, 2021, 01:05:27 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 12:56:26 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on April 26, 2021, 12:42:40 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 25, 2021, 11:31:02 PM
Well, in the 10 years since ep 1e was done we've seen a rise in global fascist mentality, even (espically) in the good ol' US of A, so maybe the authors wanted to take a harder line against fascism.

I'm Ok with that. My idea of dealing with fascists involves bulldozers and lots of dirt.

I feel the same way about Commies.

That's OK. I have come to accept that the right in America has been brainwashed and propagandized to the point that an all out civil war in america is unavoidable at this point and the Trump right will either destroy and crush all who refuse to bow to it or the rest of America will destroy the Trump right.

Personally I decided I'd rather my side be the one left alive after the war ends.

And what's the final solution you advocate for?

LOL, you're on the side that's willing to kill those who think different, because they think different, and the fascists are the others?

I'm for whatever it takes to stop people like this. Whatever it takes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-twitter-today-cowboy-democrat-dead-couy-griffin-tweets-a9537016.html


RPG.net is a cancer on the left and a disgrace to reasonable progressives that should be denounced and shunned by anyone considering themselves a progressive.

jeff37923

#52
April 26, 2021, 01:33:54 AM
Quote from: MyrddinWyllt on April 26, 2021, 01:00:01 AM
Woah there Matt. Realize that not everyone who voted for trump is alt right, far right nor an extremist.

What? And put a gaping hole in his narrative fantasy? You know, the one where Trump was Thulsa Doom and got his head cut off by Biden as Conan?
"Meh."

HappyDaze

#53
April 26, 2021, 01:42:43 AM
Quote from: This Guy on April 26, 2021, 12:19:06 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on April 26, 2021, 12:17:38 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 25, 2021, 11:31:02 PM
Well, in the 10 years since ep 1e was done we've seen a rise in global fascist mentality, even (espically) in the good ol' US of A, so maybe the authors wanted to take a harder line against fascism.

I'm Ok with that. My idea of dealing with fascists involves bulldozers and lots of dirt.
In 1e, the Ultimates were among the few that protected the less massive masses of humanity from Exhumans and the like...actually they pretty much got the Jovian treatment except that they are heavily in favor of (controlled) transhumanism to ensure the future of mankind rather than going anti-transhumanism to ensure the future of mankind like the Jovians.

As much as they give both of these factions shit, earlier sources showed that these were both strong backers of Firewall--the assumed PC-moving patrons of the setting.

Seems like one of those things where you can just like pick the setting bits you want and jettison the rest
You can...if you have the earlier editions (which are available as free downloads). If you just have the current 2e stuff, you just get the bits the writers now want you to see and may not realize what they've jettisoned.

GeekyBugle

#54
April 26, 2021, 01:56:28 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 01:29:34 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 26, 2021, 01:06:24 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 01:01:16 AM
Quote from: MyrddinWyllt on April 26, 2021, 01:00:01 AM
Woah there Matt. Realize that not everyone who voted for trump is alt right, far right nor an extremist.

As far as I'm concerned anyone who still supports that thing is someone I cannot co-exist with.

Haul them of to those cattle wagons heading for the concentration camps.

If that's what they want to do to people like me and the only way to stop them is to do it to them first,  then yes.

I lost all ability to tolerate tge far right when a major Trump supporter named couy Griffin cheerfully told a crowd of good Christian trump supporters 'the only good demoract is a dead Democrat' and they cheered. No significant figure or organization on the right ever uttered a word in protest or condemnation against him.

Fox news blew head gaskets over Maxine Waters comments on the chauvin trial but never said a word about this.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-twitter-today-cowboy-democrat-dead-couy-griffin-tweets-a9537016.html

So that's whenni realized people like me need to see tge Trump right as a hostile enemy and a threat.

I've got only this to answer to your demented ramblings.

Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

#55
April 26, 2021, 02:10:45 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 01:32:47 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 26, 2021, 01:05:27 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 12:56:26 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on April 26, 2021, 12:42:40 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 25, 2021, 11:31:02 PM
Well, in the 10 years since ep 1e was done we've seen a rise in global fascist mentality, even (espically) in the good ol' US of A, so maybe the authors wanted to take a harder line against fascism.

I'm Ok with that. My idea of dealing with fascists involves bulldozers and lots of dirt.

I feel the same way about Commies.

That's OK. I have come to accept that the right in America has been brainwashed and propagandized to the point that an all out civil war in america is unavoidable at this point and the Trump right will either destroy and crush all who refuse to bow to it or the rest of America will destroy the Trump right.

Personally I decided I'd rather my side be the one left alive after the war ends.

And what's the final solution you advocate for?

LOL, you're on the side that's willing to kill those who think different, because they think different, and the fascists are the others?

I'm for whatever it takes to stop people like this. Whatever it takes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-twitter-today-cowboy-democrat-dead-couy-griffin-tweets-a9537016.html

You have been indoctrinated into a cult.

http://genocidewatch.net/genocide-2/8-stages-of-genocide/
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

This Guy

#56
April 26, 2021, 02:15:07 AM
Nice it's good to belong somewhere you oughta try it.
I don\'t want to play with you.

matt swain

#57
April 26, 2021, 02:20:31 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 26, 2021, 02:10:45 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 01:32:47 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 26, 2021, 01:05:27 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 26, 2021, 12:56:26 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on April 26, 2021, 12:42:40 AM
Quote from: matt swain on April 25, 2021, 11:31:02 PM
Well, in the 10 years since ep 1e was done we've seen a rise in global fascist mentality, even (espically) in the good ol' US of A, so maybe the authors wanted to take a harder line against fascism.

I'm Ok with that. My idea of dealing with fascists involves bulldozers and lots of dirt.

I feel the same way about Commies.

That's OK. I have come to accept that the right in America has been brainwashed and propagandized to the point that an all out civil war in america is unavoidable at this point and the Trump right will either destroy and crush all who refuse to bow to it or the rest of America will destroy the Trump right.

Personally I decided I'd rather my side be the one left alive after the war ends.

And what's the final solution you advocate for?

LOL, you're on the side that's willing to kill those who think different, because they think different, and the fascists are the others?

I'm for whatever it takes to stop people like this. Whatever it takes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-twitter-today-cowboy-democrat-dead-couy-griffin-tweets-a9537016.html

You have been indoctrinated into a cult.

http://genocidewatch.net/genocide-2/8-stages-of-genocide/

Maybe you could explain to me how the willingness to stop people who are openly calling for your group to be destroyed makes one in the wrong?
RPG.net is a cancer on the left and a disgrace to reasonable progressives that should be denounced and shunned by anyone considering themselves a progressive.

moonsweeper

#58
April 26, 2021, 02:21:43 AM
Quote from: MyrddinWyllt on April 25, 2021, 11:57:04 PM
I really like Eclipse Phase. But yeah the whole gender mattering when anyone can be whatever is stupid. Also the fact that of all of the abrahamic faiths only Islam survived in a major form is BS. As much as I am a filthy atheist I don't think Religion will ever die out hence why I think Dune makes more sense using religion than EP.

When I glanced at EP, this is pretty much what I thought.

side note:
Guys, I think I would just leave the OP alone. 

For fuck's sake, HD was the one trying to be the voice of reason with him.

He is either trying to get a bunch of people banned for discussing non-gaming stuff outside of Pundit's forum or else he really is that deranged.  Personally, I think getting jettisoned from TBP for not being pure enough has probably unhinged him for a bit...
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GeekyBugle

#59
April 26, 2021, 02:25:19 AM
Quote from: moonsweeper on April 26, 2021, 02:21:43 AM
Quote from: MyrddinWyllt on April 25, 2021, 11:57:04 PM
I really like Eclipse Phase. But yeah the whole gender mattering when anyone can be whatever is stupid. Also the fact that of all of the abrahamic faiths only Islam survived in a major form is BS. As much as I am a filthy atheist I don't think Religion will ever die out hence why I think Dune makes more sense using religion than EP.

When I glanced at EP, this is pretty much what I thought.

side note:
Guys, I think I would just leave the OP alone. 

For fuck's sake, HD was the one trying to be the voice of reason with him.

He is either trying to get a bunch of people banned for discussing non-gaming stuff outside of Pundit's forum or else he really is that deranged.  Personally, I think getting jettisoned from TBP for not being pure enough has probably unhinged him for a bit...

Yeah, he is deranged alright. Like the other deranged loon around
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell
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