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Does 4e have a broad spectrum of playstyles?

Started by RPGPundit, July 27, 2008, 01:09:08 PM

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Pseudoephedrine

Quote from: Abyssal Maw;230040In fact, here's my major annoyance with 4E that I haven't heard anyone talk about yet:

Wizards no longer get familiars.

Don't worry, I can come over and kick you repeatedly in the nuts any time you please. :p

I've only once seen a familiar handled well, and even then it was as a comic touch in an otherwise serious game.
Running
The Pernicious Light, or The Wreckers of Sword Island;
A Goblin\'s Progress, or Of Cannons and Canons;
An Oration on the Dignity of Tash, or On the Elves and Their Lies
All for S&W Complete
Playing: Dark Heresy, WFRP 2e

"Elves don\'t want you cutting down trees but they sell wood items, they don\'t care about the forests, they\'\'re the fuckin\' wood mafia." -Anonymous

Pseudoephedrine

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Quote from: DeadUematsu;229955AM, I have a copy of the 4E books. I know what rituals are. I know the rules. I also know what the book says. There is no rule in the book that says rituals do not preclude combat effects. Using the Binding category of rituals alone, I can duplicate Summon Monster. Hell, I can nuke Waterdeep by summoning the Faerunian equivalent of Wormwood to come crashing down on it. Again, this is no rule saying that I cannot do that. Heck, I can even add new categories for Buffing and Destruction if that's required.

Anyway, remember, I only went down this path because Psuedo said you easily could add summonable creatures to 4E through the ritual subsystem. Also, when I say summonable creatures, I mean creatures that you can use in combat AND in other ways. I don't care for ghost ponies. Ghost ponies alone do not cover the entirety of effects that you can do with the creature summoning that existed in previous editions of D&D.

I stand by it. I'd let you summon a demon or devil to help you in combat using a ritual. I'd probably be a dick about it and make the ritual casting roll a pseudo-skill challenge involving repeatedly rolling your Arcana or Religion or something though. If you fuck up, the demon busts loose and goes apeshit on you.

Actually, this is a wicked idea I'm incorporating into the Dawnlands. Thanks!

Edit: Shazam!
Now you've got houserules for demon summoning and everything.
Running
The Pernicious Light, or The Wreckers of Sword Island;
A Goblin\'s Progress, or Of Cannons and Canons;
An Oration on the Dignity of Tash, or On the Elves and Their Lies
All for S&W Complete
Playing: Dark Heresy, WFRP 2e

"Elves don\'t want you cutting down trees but they sell wood items, they don\'t care about the forests, they\'\'re the fuckin\' wood mafia." -Anonymous