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[DnD Next] Optional Modules: 4e Tact Combat; Storygame; Etc. Add-Ons

Started by Mistwell, September 23, 2013, 01:37:37 AM

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Old One Eye

Quote from: RPGPundit;695228Yeah, that's only what I've been saying for a year and a half now, fancy that..

It would be a spectacularly awesome punk-out if you are in actuality Mr. Mearls.

TristramEvans

Quote from: Old One Eye;695231It would be a spectacularly awesome punk-out if you are in actuality Mr. Mearls.

Nah, the Pundit is Ron Edwards's alter ego, everyone knows that.

Votan

Quote from: RPGPundit;695228Yeah, that's only what I've been saying for a year and a half now, fancy that..

Tricky to make work though.  A dense set of options can make for a fantastic toolkit but they can also lead to more complexity than a system that makes actual decisions.  I will be curious to see how it all works out in the final version of the game system.

vytzka

Quote from: TristramEvans;695233Nah, the Pundit is Ron Edwards's alter ego, everyone knows that.

They could both be Mearls.

TristramEvans

Quote from: vytzka;695309They could both be Mearls.

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If everyone points out the troll, it helps new people just identify them that much quicker.
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Mistwell

Quote from: RPGPundit;695228Yeah, that's only what I've been saying for a year and a half now, fancy that..

Yeah but when the crazy hobo outside the drug store is ranting about shit, it's always nice to get confirmation from someone who doesn't stink of urine and push their worldly possessions around in a shopping cart. :p

Mistwell

Quote from: Old One Eye;695231It would be a spectacularly awesome punk-out if you are in actuality Mr. Mearls.

Mind.  Blown.

Mistwell

Quote from: TristramEvans;695310Secretly all three are just online avatars of Lorraine Williams.

And now my brain feels like the day after an alcoholic and cigar-filled all-nighter of gambling where I lost all my cash around 5am.

Glazer

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You know, because the universe is infinitely large, there are infinite versions of earth, with infinite variety, which means that somewhere in the universe, this is true. Maybe here...
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Quote from: Old One Eye;695231It would be a spectacularly awesome punk-out if you are in actuality Mr. Mearls.

Nah, I'm just trying my hardest to be his Jimminy Cricket right now. It remains to be seen how that will turn out.
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Quote from: Mistwell;695605Yeah but when the crazy hobo outside the drug store is ranting about shit, it's always nice to get confirmation from someone who doesn't stink of urine and push their worldly possessions around in a shopping cart. :p

You mean the crazy hobo who's been paid a considerable amount of money to directly advise the lead designer of D&D?

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Quote from: Votan;695288Tricky to make work though.  A dense set of options can make for a fantastic toolkit but they can also lead to more complexity than a system that makes actual decisions.  I will be curious to see how it all works out in the final version of the game system.
Typically, in games where there are a substantial number of optional rules, I find that a lot of that complexity comes in if people take the (usually ill-advised) route of enabling all the options at once.

In the case of Next, I think it should be emphasised that optional rules should be chosen carefully and are not intended to be used all at once. (For instance, combining the tactical and narrative models seems like a bizarre, self-defeating exercise to me). Kind of like how Paranoia XP did it with its three different play modes - you didn't use all the options in the book at once, you used a subset of them to fit the type of game you intended to run.

The clever way to do it would be to have the same set of game stats translate differently in different optional modes - so you'd have the same monster stat block whatever optional you were rolling with, but the way you utilise those stats differs depending on whether you're in core mode or tactical mode or narrative mode or whatever.
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Quote from: RPGPundit;695950You mean the crazy hobo who's been paid a considerable amount of money to directly advise the lead designer of D&D?

Who else?

BarefootGaijin

Quote from: Warthur;695954The clever way to do it would be to have the same set of game stats translate differently in different optional modes - so you'd have the same monster stat block whatever optional you were rolling with, but the way you utilise those stats differs depending on whether you're in core mode or tactical mode or narrative mode or whatever.

That sounds incredibly complicated, but somehow appropriate. Any examples?
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