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Diaspora has no PDF: Dumb, or The Dumbest?

Started by RPGPundit, December 11, 2009, 10:32:42 AM

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Ian Absentia

#30
Quote from: David R;348220No, he's mocking him because the Pundit could have just started a thread asking Halfjack (in a civil manner without all this Swine BS) his reasons for releasing the game the way he did.
Or, really, just not make a public spectacle of things.  But the spectacle is what it was all about.

And, Pundy?  Your #4 has nothing to do with the PDF format, so it's back to 1, 2, and 3 with you.  I'd say your response is leaning heavily toward #1.

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boulet

It's like there's an undemonstrated  theorem about scifi fate games: "in the end, there can be only one." Seems to me they're scratching different itches. It's just like being asked to choose sides between Runequest and Hawkmoon just because they both use BRP and are set in "fantasy" settings. Preposterous.

How about this for your next avatar Pundy?


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Hairfoot

Pundit hates the Swine and also posts flamebait to keep the traffic up at this site.  These are undeniable facts.

The question is the extent to which the former is fuelled by the latter.

Windjammer

Quote from: Hairfoot;348262Pundit hates the Swine and also posts flamebait to keep the traffic up at this site.

"Diaspora - kind of gay?"



Should be here any minute now.
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Quote from: Ian Absentia;348239Or, really, just not make a public spectacle of things.  But the spectacle is what it was all about.

And, Pundy?  Your #4 has nothing to do with the PDF format, so it's back to 1, 2, and 3 with you.  I'd say your response is leaning heavily toward #1.

!i!

What the fuck do I care about PDFs?

The point isn't that, its that some people were actually PRAISING these guys for a crappy decision, not because it wasn't a crappy decision, but because it was IDEOLOGICALLY what they were supposed to do. They were told "Starblazer = bad, Diaspora = good" by their leaders, because the latter uses obscure FUDGE dice, has a more pretentious name, and gives less options therefore it must be superior storygaming fare, and so now they are doing everything they can to try to shit on Starblazers and make it seem like every move by Diaspora's creators is a work of fucking genius. Its become the new Darling of the elite twats.

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Quote from: boulet;348261It's like there's an undemonstrated  theorem about scifi fate games: "in the end, there can be only one." Seems to me they're scratching different itches. It's just like being asked to choose sides between Runequest and Hawkmoon just because they both use BRP and are set in "fantasy" settings. Preposterous.


Its not about different choices, its about how some people have decided to try to use one to snipe at the other.

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Quote from: Hairfoot;348262Pundit hates the Swine and also posts flamebait to keep the traffic up at this site.  These are undeniable facts.

The question is the extent to which the former is fuelled by the latter.

The traffic doesn't need "keeping up". At what point are you assholes going to stop pretending that this site isn't an incredible fucking SUCCESS?
Its already beaten the pants of both Storygames and the Forge, any site that ever tried to de-throne us has failed in misery and obscurity, and yet the anti-pundit crowd have been harping endlessly about how this site is "at risk" even though at no point in time have we had any serious alteration in our posting volume except to go UP.

I post because I LIKE to post. If I'm controversial, its because I WANT to be controversial. TheRPGsite is in no need of help from me, at least not more help than any of the other interested and active participants in it.

And speaking of "harping endlessly", your posts are beginning to become nothing but a stream of anti-pundit attacks. I'd suggest you stop it. People who don't contribute and are clearly here only to stalk someone they're obsessed about in some pathetic childish dick-waving contest don't tend to do well.

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Don't be silly.  You've cultivated the Pundit persona expertly.  Don't turn it into a caricature by denying the obvious.

Pointless, fevered trolling is as much a part of the Pundit identity as incisive commentary.  You insult us by acting offended because we notice.

The preposterous chutzpah behind Pundit's routine errors and exaggerations is what makes the identity so compelling, and po-faced claims to serious commentary when it's obvious trolling just undermines that.

Ian Absentia

Quote from: RPGPundit;348264What the fuck do I care about PDFs?
You're a disingenuous little turd.  You know this, yes?

!i!

Imperator

Quote from: Ian Absentia;348166Pundy couldn't be bothered to send a message to the author who posts right here on this very site and ask him a simple question directly. So, without bothering to actually make a fucking poll, what do you think is the reason?
  • He's eager for any chance to drum up a furor over some people who's opinions no one really gives a shit about (i.e. "the Swine"), but for some reason he just can't stop gnashing his teeth.
  • He's a pretentious jackass, not really looking for an honest answer, and simply desperate for a new thread on his site.
  • He's afraid to address his question personally to the people who could give him a direct answer, so he's lashing out at them publicly. (ie. he's a twat)
As you can see, the options are wide open.

!i!
I go with 2.

Quote from: Aos;348183I don't think the pundit is so much desperate for a new thread as he is maintaining a long term  strategy of posting one bullshit thread every few days. It's a rolling strategy, mostly designed to take up the slack ever since the 4e debates went limp, which took up the slack after all you refugees lost your woody for Rpg.net.
This makes sense to me.

Quote from: boulet;348261How about this for your next avatar Pundy?


(PS: we all know who's Sancho Panza right?)
You can't go wrong with the classics. As for Panza, I have several candidates in mind.

Quote from: RPGPundit;348267The traffic doesn't need "keeping up". At what point are you assholes going to stop pretending that this site isn't an incredible fucking SUCCESS?
Yep, it is. We're all glad. Thing is, it's a success by the same criteria other sites and games you don't like are a success. Ain't it great?

QuoteIts already beaten the pants of both Storygames and the Forge, any site that ever tried to de-throne us has failed in misery and obscurity, and yet the anti-pundit crowd have been harping endlessly about how this site is "at risk" even though at no point in time have we had any serious alteration in our posting volume except to go UP.
That kind of competition only exists in your mind, Pundy. I've never seen any other site owner harping about number of visitors, traffic volume and shit like that like you do. Seriously. No one else cares.

I like this place, so I'm happy to see people posting here, but your dick comparison is pretty ridiculous.

Quote from: Hairfoot;348271Don't be silly.  You've cultivated the Pundit persona expertly.  Don't turn it into a caricature by denying the obvious.

Pointless, fevered trolling is as much a part of the Pundit identity as incisive commentary.  You insult us by acting offended because we notice.

The preposterous chutzpah behind Pundit's routine errors and exaggerations is what makes the identity so compelling, and po-faced claims to serious commentary when it's obvious trolling just undermines that.

Ditto. Mate, you built that character, you don't get to complain because people doesn't take you seriously.

Re: the OP. I think that there's no rule saying that you have to release a PDF and a book. I don't know if it is or not the best strategy, but to each his own.

And what does it matter if some people like Diaspora better than Starblazer adventures? That's nothing to do with Halfjack, AFAIK. So some persons express their preference for this game other that other. Big fucking deal. It's like, I don't know, some guy decided to attack the Amber RPG because some extremistic idiot - you - proclaimed that ADRPG is better than this guy's favourite game. Just an example.
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I just don't get it. If Starblazer Adventures is the more sucessful rpg, who cares what the so-called elites are thinking. I mean, if Halfjack's game was the more sucessful one and Starblazers was being overlooked by hype, then I could see a use for this thread, knowing the Pundit's preference. But that's not the case here. A regular poster on this site, writes a game and the owner of the site, decides to shit on it because of what some other dudes are saying on another site and not what the designer has said. It's just wierd. And gay.

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flyingmice

#41
Quote from: David R;348275I just don't get it. If Starblazer Adventures is the more sucessful rpg, who cares what the so-called elites are thinking. I mean, if Halfjack's game was the more sucessful one and Starblazers was being overlooked by hype, then I could see a use for this thread, knowing the Pundit's preference. But that's not the case here. A regular poster on this site, writes a game and the owner of the site, decides to shit on it because of what some other dudes are saying on another site and not what the designer has said. It's just wierd. And gay.

Regards,
David R

This is true, and Pundit should realize it. Just because all the buzz is for Diaspora at the moment - and in my opinion it deserves a lot of buzz, because no matter that it's dressed up in "Swine' clothes it's an excellent game when the clothing comes off - doesn't mean Diaspora is outselling Pundit's favorite, just that the usual ADD-afflicted crowd over on tBP has found a new shiny.

Pundit - don't dump on the game until you read it. The game itself is chock full of group level switches, so even if the advice is all story-games, the game can play as you would like. It's a damn good game, and well designed.

David - you're playing a BG II game, but it's not the ghosts thing you talked about? What's the set up? How's it going? Post to another thread so this one doesn't get derailed.

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Quote from: Ian Absentia;348272You're a disingenuous little turd.  You know this, yes?

!i!

I think you need to look again at "disingenuous". Disingenuous would be if I pretended that the big issue was the PDFs themselves rather than the implications of how this is presented.
Disingenuous is also, for example, certain people on here pretending that they give a fuck about this topic or even this board, when they only really want to try to make cheap shots on me. I like how the very people claiming I'm "trolling" are the ones who are most obviously trolling this thread and forum in the classic sense of the term.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;348302Disingenuous would be if I pretended that the big issue was the PDFs themselves rather than the implications of how this is presented.
The wheel keeps on turning, the goalpost keeps shifting, and the shit just keeps on flowing.

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Clash, having not read the game, the only "dumping" I've done on the game itself has been on those qualities the game has that the Swine themselves are proclaiming loudly as its "strengths", things like the fact that it uses Fudge-dice instead of normal dice, or that it is a more straightjacketed kind of rules-set than Starblazer Adventures.

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