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A 'troubling statement' about D&D.

Started by J Arcane, July 25, 2013, 08:12:54 AM

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P&P

Quote from: TristramEvans;676244Rpgnet major export - butthurt
TheRPGsite major export - snark
The Gaming Den major export - retardation
Something Awful major export - malice
ENWorld major export - angst

Did I miss any?

Dozens.  To me Circvs Maximvs, K&KA, Dragonsfoot and OSRGaming (yes that's seriously its name) are the most obvious ones.
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TristramEvans

Quote from: P&P;676247Dozens.  To me Circvs Maximvs, K&KA, Dragonsfoot and OSRGaming (yes that's seriously its name) are the most obvious ones.

Ah, of those only heard of Circus Maximus, but am not familiar with that board's culture. Is OSRGaming devoted to th entire osr or just D&D?

Sacrosanct

Dragonsfoot: where people to in hopes of actually getting into a conversation with Frank Mentzer.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

P&P

He's got 6510 posts there.  It's not difficult to talk to Frank...
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Monsters of Myth

RPGPundit

And later these same assholes try to claim they're not trying to undo the RPG hobby...

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Quote from: RPGPundit;676367And later these same assholes try to claim they're not trying to undo the RPG hobby...

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They just want to mold it in their image.

valency

Quote from: flyerfan1991;676396They just want to mold it in their image.

By the time they're finished, the only game published will be:

VICTIM OLYMPICS: The Roleplaying Game

Play: Pick one person to be the Moderator. The other persons are Players. Players sit around a table and attempt to have a normal conversation about any topic drawn from the Conversation Card deck. However, players constantly monitor each other for ethnocentricism, heteronormativity, transphobia, racism, racial essentialism, mansplaining, male privilege, white privilege, and group-based attacks.

At any stage, a player may call out another player by shouting CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE! At this stage, a trial must be held before the Moderator. Players may attempt to argue their case by either asserting or denying said utterances constitute violations of the Policies. Players may cite precedent, context, or rules, with the moderator awarding points based on his interpretation of the rules.

Each player may bolster their argument by playing Victim Cards and Privilege Cards. For example, if you are a black female who was bullied at school, you may play these three victim cards in any argument. However, if you also happen to be wealthy, another player may play a Privilege Card against you, nullifying one of your Victim Cards.

White Males start with no Victim Cards, but may obtain them by adopting Marginalized Identities. One of the most powerful, of these is Pre-Op Transexual, which involves going round wearing a dress and garish makeup and pretending that this gives you great insight into being a woman. So powerful is this identity that it trumps the Cisgendered Woman identity. You may play a Privilege Card against any woman if they object to you asserting the right to be treated as your chosen gender identity when you enter their change rooms, toilets etc.

The Pre-Op Transexual identity is most potent when you adopt a Queer: Transwoman-4-Male identity but you may avoid this step by dating a woman who also has the Pre-Op Transexual identity, making the potent Queerified Reverse-Heteronormative Relationship Victim Trump Combo.

After all points are tallied, after being weighted by Victim and Privilege Cards in play, the moderator will deliver a Verdict based on the result: Carry On, Warning, or the BanHammer. The BanHammer removes a player from play for one to three rounds. Particularly egregrious or repeat offenders receive the PermaBan and are removed from play. The winner is the last one left standing, who is crowned the Ultimate Victim and Champion of the Oppressed.

It's a fun, fast-moving game, but unfortunately, like Diplomacy, best played with your worst enemies, because your best friends are going to look like  your worst enemies after a few rounds anyway.
"I agree on the Kender issue. Kender genocide  is not a crime."
--  Osric Worbridge

Sacrosanct

Who was it that said, "Tangency D&D would only have one class, but fourteen genders."


I saw it in someone's sig.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Rincewind1

Tristram "Watch your Pockets" Evans.

Quote from: valency;676416By the time they're finished, the only game published will be:

VICTIM OLYMPICS: The Roleplaying Game

Play: Pick one person to be the Moderator. The other persons are Players. Players sit around a table and attempt to have a normal conversation about any topic drawn from the Conversation Card deck. However, players constantly monitor each other for ethnocentricism, heteronormativity, transphobia, racism, racial essentialism, mansplaining, male privilege, white privilege, and group-based attacks.

At any stage, a player may call out another player by shouting CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE! At this stage, a trial must be held before the Moderator. Players may attempt to argue their case by either asserting or denying said utterances constitute violations of the Policies. Players may cite precedent, context, or rules, with the moderator awarding points based on his interpretation of the rules.

Each player may bolster their argument by playing Victim Cards and Privilege Cards. For example, if you are a black female who was bullied at school, you may play these three victim cards in any argument. However, if you also happen to be wealthy, another player may play a Privilege Card against you, nullifying one of your Victim Cards.

White Males start with no Victim Cards, but may obtain them by adopting Marginalized Identities. One of the most powerful, of these is Pre-Op Transexual, which involves going round wearing a dress and garish makeup and pretending that this gives you great insight into being a woman. So powerful is this identity that it trumps the Cisgendered Woman identity. You may play a Privilege Card against any woman if they object to you asserting the right to be treated as your chosen gender identity when you enter their change rooms, toilets etc.

The Pre-Op Transexual identity is most potent when you adopt a Queer: Transwoman-4-Male identity but you may avoid this step by dating a woman who also has the Pre-Op Transexual identity, making the potent Queerified Reverse-Heteronormative Relationship Victim Trump Combo.

After all points are tallied, after being weighted by Victim and Privilege Cards in play, the moderator will deliver a Verdict based on the result: Carry On, Warning, or the BanHammer. The BanHammer removes a player from play for one to three rounds. Particularly egregrious or repeat offenders receive the PermaBan and are removed from play. The winner is the last one left standing, who is crowned the Ultimate Victim and Champion of the Oppressed.

It's a fun, fast-moving game, but unfortunately, like Diplomacy, best played with your worst enemies, because your best friends are going to look like  your worst enemies after a few rounds anyway.

Sockpuppets will be introduced in an expansion pack.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

crkrueger

Quote from: valency;676416White Males start with no Victim Cards, but may obtain them by adopting Marginalized Identities. One of the most powerful, of these is Pre-Op Transexual, which involves going round wearing a dress and garish makeup and pretending that this gives you great insight into being a woman. So powerful is this identity that it trumps the Cisgendered Woman identity.

The sheer amount of truth in this is staggering.

BTW Sac, it's in my sig below, it was Tristram.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans