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" Decolonizing D&D: Is your game problematic?"
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2019, 04:01:35 AM »
I've lived 20+ years in Asia.

I firmly believe that western colonisation was, on balance, a positive force.
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« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2019, 04:26:42 AM »
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It is almost as ridiculous as the 'satanic panic' hysteria in the '80s, yet far more restricting.

The so-called "satanic panic" was a toothless fart into a strong breeze compared to what the SJW's are doing.

The SJW's already had more impact, have exerted more influence and control over over the social mores of the mainstream RPG hobby than all of the fraud, huckster, peacock-preacher's involved in the "satanic-panic" combined.
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« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2019, 11:19:28 AM »
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...we would obviously need to put down the bong!!!


Even in my wildest bong-induced excesses - I've never put out an idea dumber than Intsectionalism. Or Social Justice as a concept.

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« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2019, 11:25:10 AM »
It's amazing to me that we spend so much energy discussing the merits of these arguments trying to demonstrate that RPGs are bigoted, when the the very premise upon which those arguments are proposed is a glaring logical fallacy.

"Intelligence" is sometimes measured by racist IQ tests.
RPGs use "Intelligence".
Therefore: RPGs are racist.

Some author used the word "Savages" to describe savages who happen to be Black.
RPGs use the word "Savages".
Therefore: RPGs think Black people are Savages.

Some apples are red.
Cardinals are red.
Therefore: cardinals are apples.

The argument as a whole is utterly absurd and outright fallacious, regardless of the truth of falsity of the parts.
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« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2019, 11:29:28 AM »
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It's amazing to me that we spend so much energy discussing the merits of these arguments trying to demonstrate that RPGs are bigoted, when the the very premise upon which those arguments are proposed is a glaring logical fallacy.

I agree; they're based on a faulty premise and not made in good faith. Just a way to push some bullshit agenda.

So, instead of trying to make an argument, just say it's stupid and move on. Why would you engage anyone whatsoever who was insisting 2+4=5 beyond calling them an idiot? It's the same thing.
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" Decolonizing D&D: Is your game problematic?"
« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2019, 11:35:44 AM »
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It's amazing to me that we spend so much energy discussing the merits of these arguments trying to demonstrate that RPGs are bigoted, when the the very premise upon which those arguments are proposed is a glaring logical fallacy...

Some apples are red.
Cardinals are red.
Therefore: cardinals are apples.

The argument as a whole is utterly absurd and outright fallacious, regardless of the truth of falsity of the parts.

Yes, but logic is a dominance tool of the western patriarchy.  I wish I were kidding.

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« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2019, 11:56:58 AM »
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Yes, but logic is a dominance tool of the western patriarchy.  I wish I were kidding.


It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

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« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2019, 12:00:37 PM »
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How about you guys stop sharing this bollocks? Flames need air.

Smother the flames with ignoring the nonsense. Your time is better spent buying snacks and rolling up random dungeons and star systems.

Because that worked so well in the past. [/s]
This PC/Callout/regressive culture gets stronger when people ignore it. What stops it is simply when somebody finally tells them "No".
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« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2019, 12:02:13 PM »
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The so-called "satanic panic" was a toothless fart into a strong breeze compared to what the SJW's are doing.

The SJW's already had more impact, have exerted more influence and control over over the social mores of the mainstream RPG hobby than all of the fraud, huckster, peacock-preacher's involved in the "satanic-panic" combined.


The major difference is that the Satanic Panic was an outside threat. Social Justice's tactics is to attack from within.
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« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2019, 12:20:22 PM »
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Yes, but logic is a dominance tool of the western patriarchy.  I wish I were kidding.


We are all dumber for having read what you posted. I wish I were kidding.

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Because that worked so well in the past. [/s]
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« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2019, 12:21:38 PM »
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Because that worked so well in the past. [/s]
This PC/Callout/regressive culture gets stronger when people ignore it. What stops it is simply when somebody finally tells them "No".

What!? You mean to tell me the push to teach creationism in schools wasn't stopped by just ignoring it's proponents? I can't even.
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« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2019, 12:25:03 PM »
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We are all dumber for having read what you posted. I wish I were kidding.


Obviously I don't believe that.  I was making a point.

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« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2019, 01:42:17 PM »
Dear SJW's read this important announcement from the Surgeon Field Marshall. It will save you pain and suffering. Warning the Surgeon Field Marshall has determined that SJW complaints about my gaming is hazardous to your health.

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« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2019, 06:10:23 PM »
I seriously wish we would stop using SJW in the pejorative. It gives those of us who actually fight for social justice a bad rap. These people are only co-opting the term as they found a less-discerning crowd there. They are actually angry fascists using social justice, feminism and equality to gain power (and oppress/ruin their enemies). They are generally only concerned with themselves. Calling them Social Justice Warriors is somewhat of a misnomer. Just because someone runs up to you calling you "anathema" claiming to be the Pope, does not mean they are actually the Pope (or worthy of such a title). We should call them what they are. SLFs. Selfish Leftist Fascists. Selfs. It's like "Elf" but with 1000x more selfish-asshole. If that's possible.

Also, I lean left but I'm not an extremist. This kind of hand-wringing fuck-wittery is not indicative of actual liberal-minded people who are well-adjusted functioning human beings. It's an agenda to control our little corner of the hobby world. Fuck these dumbasses.
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« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2019, 06:22:20 PM »
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What!? You mean to tell me the push to teach creationism in schools wasn't stopped by just ignoring it's proponents? I can't even.

They weren't ignored, they were heard - by state secretaries of education, school boards, and so on. The proper response when they stood up in PTA meetings would have been to let them rabbit on for a bit, "thankyou for your opinion, now on to matters of substance," or when they presented their petitions, filed in the round filing cabinet. This is what happened in Australia and the UK with the Christians, though we have failed to do so with the CJWs and SJWs.

The US Christians were listened to. They were not ignored. And that was the problem. As then, so now.

This is what comes of treating people's beliefs with respect. Eventually whoever has the loudest beliefs gets to impose them on others. The world needs more derisive laughter and dismissive contempt. It begins with not sharing their nonsense. Your hysterical response to someone's blog with 11 readers ensures they get more attention. Lonely losers then find company. White supremacists have 8chan, SJWs have tumblr. By drawing attention to obscure nonsense you help the producers of that nonsense form communities. Though they are the ones engaging in the circle jerk, we're the ones who end up eating the soggy biscuit.

Deny the fire air. Don't fan the flames, you idiot. Let the lonely losers remain lonely, then perhaps they will in time decide to no longer be losers.
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