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D&D Wokists Kept Crying Wolf, now Accuse Disbelievers of Being Wolves Too

Started by RPGPundit, May 19, 2022, 07:21:30 AM

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Omega

Quote from: rytrasmi on May 19, 2022, 12:17:54 PM
Good video and some good points!

I've always been suspicious of nu-TSR. The only reason to resurrect a dead trademark is to trade on the nostalgia of older gamers.

Not allways.

Ive seen several designers reclaim a title or such because someone else either swiped it, or new owners abused or just discarded it. WOTC spits on TSR and of course someones going to want to take that away from them.

Wether or not this new TSR did it for reasons right or wrong, at this point its a moot point. If they fuck it up then someone else will eventually pick up the trampled flag and run with it. Eventually someone will get it right.

Meanwhile TRS still quietly produces Dragon Dice because WOTC was going to chuck all the dice into a landfill rather than try selling them and so this guy stepped in and bought the rights and molds to the game.
Another designer for RuneQuest did the same and recovered from WOTC the HeroQuest title after MB grabbed it from them.
Eventually I'll get back my Starfield title after Bethsada ganked it from me. The fact they lied to me about it just makes that all the more an inevitability. I wouldn't have minded if theyd just said "Hey. We are making a new game and is it ok if we use this old game title?" 

Spinachcat

Quote from: ponta1010 on May 19, 2022, 07:34:23 PMBy doing so, the accusation when true (ie someone is actually racist etc.) loses its meaning. You sort of shrug your shoulders and go 'Oh, another one. So what?'

Even if someone is the most racist racist in the entire history of racism, so what?

It's a free country with freedom of speech. Nowhere in the Constitution demands everybody like each other.

Modern culture has gone insane. If everybody can go to work without killing each other, then all is fine regardless of what everybody says about each other away from work.

AKA, in the past, plenty of people at the workplace actually hated each other, but there was no social media so while everybody knew Timmy and Billy fucking hated each other, there was no handwringing over tweets.




DocJones

Quote from: RPGPundit on May 19, 2022, 07:21:30 AM
It sure looks like the guy supposedly making "Star Frontiers" for New-TSR is a huge racist/anti-Semite.
But after #dnd Wokists spent years calling everyone they dislike "Nazis", it's unsurprising that #ttrpg gamers are finding it hard to believe.
#osr
I watched the Antifa videos at the bottom -  https://www.nohateingaming.com/
I got the impression this guy is mocking Antifa, socialists, communists, and democrats (KKK).
I've seen all of the memes before.  They weren't created by and for notsees or racists.
They are all the creation of 4chan explicitly for the purpose of trolling.
In short it's juvenile. 
I'd criticize him for not have the creativity to make up his own racist/notsee memes. /s


Spinachcat

This wanking over "racism" is truly laughable.

All these ENworld whining bitches need to visit New York or Los Angeles and meet the many hundreds of thousands of...Hispanics who hate Whites, the Whites who hate blacks, the blacks who hate Asians, the Asians who hate Hispanics, the Hispanics who hate Asians, the blacks who hate Whites, the Whites who hate Asians, and of course, the blacks who hate blacks.

Humans prefer their own...and also hate their own. It's a fucked up species.

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: Spinachcat on May 19, 2022, 07:58:05 PM
Humans prefer their own...and also hate their own. It's a fucked up species.

That's why I prefer animals. They won't backstab you.
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ponta1010

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 19, 2022, 08:05:30 PM
That's why I prefer animals. They won't backstab you.

I was going to say 'Except scorpions', but they're insects  :P
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VisionStorm

Quote from: ponta1010 on May 19, 2022, 10:52:52 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 19, 2022, 08:05:30 PM
That's why I prefer animals. They won't backstab you.

I was going to say 'Except scorpions', but they're insects  :P

Arachnids. Which is still a type of animal. But then again, so are humans. Though, some animals are more cuddly than others, but humans and scorpions are way down the list.

Hzilong

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 19, 2022, 08:05:30 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 19, 2022, 07:58:05 PM
Humans prefer their own...and also hate their own. It's a fucked up species.

That's why I prefer animals. They won't backstab you.
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Ratman_tf

Quote from: Hzilong on May 19, 2022, 11:25:17 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 19, 2022, 08:05:30 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 19, 2022, 07:58:05 PM
Humans prefer their own...and also hate their own. It's a fucked up species.

That's why I prefer animals. They won't backstab you.
Monitor lizards have entered the chat.

Chimpanzees

Animals will rape and kill each other over territory and mates, and kill and devour the young of other species.
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VisionStorm

Quote from: Ratman_tf on May 19, 2022, 11:44:22 PM
Quote from: Hzilong on May 19, 2022, 11:25:17 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 19, 2022, 08:05:30 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 19, 2022, 07:58:05 PM
Humans prefer their own...and also hate their own. It's a fucked up species.

That's why I prefer animals. They won't backstab you.
Monitor lizards have entered the chat.

Chimpanzees

Animals will rape and kill each other over territory and mates, and kill and devour the young of other species.

Chimps will chew your face and fingers off and claw your eyes out (literally happened to a woman in the news years ago). They're nasty fucks.

Shasarak

Quote from: VisionStorm on May 20, 2022, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on May 19, 2022, 11:44:22 PM
Quote from: Hzilong on May 19, 2022, 11:25:17 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 19, 2022, 08:05:30 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 19, 2022, 07:58:05 PM
Humans prefer their own...and also hate their own. It's a fucked up species.

That's why I prefer animals. They won't backstab you.
Monitor lizards have entered the chat.

Chimpanzees

Animals will rape and kill each other over territory and mates, and kill and devour the young of other species.

Chimps will chew your face and fingers off and claw your eyes out (literally happened to a woman in the news years ago). They're nasty fucks.

Chimps might be nasty fucks but they aint got nothing on Ducks who are ultra nasty fucks.
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Quote from: ponta1010 on May 19, 2022, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 19, 2022, 07:05:16 PM
As for the "controversy", words like nazi, racist and anti-Semite are all bullshit and laughable terms now. "Anti-Semite" now means any criticism of Israel or any person of even partial Jewish heritage, "racist" means you don't tow the Democrat party line narrative, and "nazi" is anyone who disagrees with a libtard.

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

By doing so, the accusation when true (ie someone is actually racist etc.) loses its meaning. You sort of shrug your shoulders and go 'Oh, another one. So what?'

And that's exactly the point I made in the video. One of the WORST things (of a long list of bad things) that the Wokists have done is create a situation where words that once had enormous power of condemnation to people who were actual real human scum now have no power at all.
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Quote from: RPGPundit on May 20, 2022, 01:33:04 AM
Quote from: ponta1010 on May 19, 2022, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 19, 2022, 07:05:16 PM
As for the "controversy", words like nazi, racist and anti-Semite are all bullshit and laughable terms now. "Anti-Semite" now means any criticism of Israel or any person of even partial Jewish heritage, "racist" means you don't tow the Democrat party line narrative, and "nazi" is anyone who disagrees with a libtard.

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

By doing so, the accusation when true (ie someone is actually racist etc.) loses its meaning. You sort of shrug your shoulders and go 'Oh, another one. So what?'

And that's exactly the point I made in the video. One of the WORST things (of a long list of bad things) that the Wokists have done is create a situation where words that once had enormous power of condemnation to people who were actual real human scum now have no power at all.
Ding ding ding. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

I've commented as well about how the wokeists have, from a language standpoint, devalued the currency. Running around calling people Nazis may give you a cheap dopamine high, but it won't actually change anything.

What's more, the definition (at least in their heads) of Nazi has devolved. From 'member of the NSDAP' to 'holds views akin to the NSDAP' to 'is somewhat ideologically aligned with NSDAP' to 'stood too close to a member of the NSDAP' to its final incarnation, 'someone I disagree with'.

And as the late Billy Mays would say, 'BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!'.

When you pull out those words, you close off any avenue of peaceful compromise. Who wants to talk to someone who calls you a Nazi? Especially when you're not. It's like the meme, 'Who radicalized you?' 'You did.' There's no more room for negotiation. If they don't want to change, what do you do then?

Which leads into my next point. You don't 'negotiate' or 'compromise' with evil. The old saw is that diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' until you can find a big enough rock. So if the wokeists (by their words) view us as evil... are they not looking for a rock while they talk?

Tubesock Army

Quote from: RPGPundit on May 20, 2022, 01:33:04 AM
Quote from: ponta1010 on May 19, 2022, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 19, 2022, 07:05:16 PM
As for the "controversy", words like nazi, racist and anti-Semite are all bullshit and laughable terms now. "Anti-Semite" now means any criticism of Israel or any person of even partial Jewish heritage, "racist" means you don't tow the Democrat party line narrative, and "nazi" is anyone who disagrees with a libtard.

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

By doing so, the accusation when true (ie someone is actually racist etc.) loses its meaning. You sort of shrug your shoulders and go 'Oh, another one. So what?'

And that's exactly the point I made in the video. One of the WORST things (of a long list of bad things) that the Wokists have done is create a situation where words that once had enormous power of condemnation to people who were actual real human scum now have no power at all.

Nobody outside of this hugbox believes that the members the rpgsite repeatedly running cover for nazis is the fault of anyone but the users of the rpgsite. Nice attempt at damage control, though.

PSIandCO

Quote from: Tubesock Army on May 20, 2022, 08:13:37 AMNobody outside of this hugbox believes that the members the rpgsite repeatedly running cover for nazis is the fault of anyone but the users of the rpgsite. Nice attempt at damage control, though.

Seriously, memes are your evidence and excuse for Demanding "X" be done to somebody It is a good thing you are absolutely nobody, don't matter, and never will. do tell, what "Punishment" do you think Nu-Tsr deserves? let us put a face on your brand of nonchalance cowardice.

I am 50. I missed World wars 1 and 2 by 40/80 years each. I have not seen a "nazi", and I am absolutely certain that SJWs haven't either.
They don't know the meaning of the words they are trained to spew, they are just like clapping seals.
Like the "Boy who cried wolf" the words have lost all meaning and don't provoke anyone outside of Fist range.
Accuse someone of those things face to face? and you will eat those words...

EDIT: which brings to mind the following question; why hide behind a Keyboard and sockpuppet accounts?