D&D Virtual Table is dead

Benoist · July 11, 2012, 12:18:21 PM

Got to agree with beeber. Look. Since WotC took over D&D they have clearly demonstrated at least one thing: that they will fuck up EVERY.SINGLE. digital offering they put out there for the D&D game, and any related digital platform (Gleemax...) for that matter. They SUCK at it. PERIOD.

Aos · July 11, 2012, 12:20:51 PM

Yeah, I mean its not like there was a murder suicide or anything to hold up the works.

Benoist · July 11, 2012, 12:22:19 PM

Quote from: Gib;558820Yeah, I mean its not like there was a murder suicide or anything to hold up the works.

It's way too easy to fall back on the murder-suicide thing as an excuse. Murder suicide wasn't involved in Gleemax. It wasn't involved with the 3rd ed digital tools. It wasn't involved in any other fuck-ups. Come on, man. That's bullshit.

Aos · July 11, 2012, 12:26:28 PM

Murder/suicide is always my excuse.

Benoist · July 11, 2012, 12:27:43 PM

Quote from: Gib;558822Murder/suicide is always my excuse.

It's a good one though. It plays on emotions and triggers that "oh noes, I understand..." kind of reaction in all of us.

Aos · July 11, 2012, 12:35:07 PM

Don't buy a Chevy and if you do buy a Chevy, don't buy the Chevette.

flyerfan1991 · July 11, 2012, 01:00:48 PM

I always figured that WotC got the 'computer end fuckup virus' from Avalon Hill, who couldn't seem to make anything decent out of their numerous board games. Of course, a lot of that is due to the way the Dotts ran AH --and is also part of the reason why AH ended up getting sold to Hasbro-- but still, the Dotts had absolutely no concept of what it would take to make software work.

thedungeondelver · July 11, 2012, 01:06:23 PM

Quote from: flyerfan1991;558831I always figured that WotC got the 'computer end fuckup virus' from Avalon Hill, who couldn't seem to make anything decent out of their numerous board games. Of course, a lot of that is due to the way the Dotts ran AH --and is also part of the reason why AH ended up getting sold to Hasbro-- but still, the Dotts had absolutely no concept of what it would take to make software work.

Nonsense. Telengard and B1 Nuclear Bomber are fine games!

flyerfan1991 · July 11, 2012, 01:19:23 PM

Quote from: thedungeondelver;558833Nonsense. Telengard and B1 Nuclear Bomber are fine games!

As was Computer Squad Leader. A fine example of vaporware, that was.

jeff37923 · July 11, 2012, 01:44:22 PM

After reading this, I wonder if there is anything that WotC/Hasbro cannot fuck up with the D&D brand.

Benoist · July 11, 2012, 01:47:29 PM

Quote from: jeff37923;558843After reading this, I wonder if there is anything that WotC/Hasbro cannot fuck up with the D&D brand.

Do we really want to know the answer to this question?

beeber · July 11, 2012, 01:59:41 PM

Quote from: Benoist;558847Do we really want to know the answer to this question?

as someone who has written off 5e (i already have what i want for d&d, thankyouverymuch) the only thing they could do right is to release/re-release all the old stuff on pdf. . . .

hexgrid · July 11, 2012, 02:28:11 PM

Quote from: Blackhand;558789Indeed.

Maybe they'll realize they need to lift off the treadmill-go pedal.

Derp.

They did stop the treadmill, at about the same time that they started releasing D&D boardgames and the "Essentials" books meant to be evergreen products. The splat-book-a-month schedule that had been going on since 3.5 never resumed.

daniel_ream · July 11, 2012, 02:46:42 PM

I'm always bemused when people who don't actually work in or have any experience with the software industry assume that any of this stuff is easy (or in some cases, possible).

As we say around here at the daily scrums, if it's so easy you should be able to knock out a functioning proof-of-concept in a day or so. Let us know when you're done.

beeber · July 11, 2012, 02:51:15 PM

Quote from: daniel_ream;558877I'm always bemused when people who don't actually work in or have any experience with the software industry assume that any of this stuff is easy (or in some cases, possible).

As we say around here at the daily scrums, if it's so easy you should be able to knock out a functioning proof-of-concept in a day or so. Let us know when you're done.

i'm not saying it's easy; more like WotC always seems to bite off more than they can chew. like the marketing folks are running the show, no practical knowledge of what can be done.