Perhaps murdermigrants would be a more acceptable term?

If you want more non-political thread topics...create some non-political thread topics!

Hey lurkers! Yeah you! Pop in an start some non-political threads!

Quote from: Spinachcat;1106472If you want more non-political thread topics...create some non-political thread topics!

Hey lurkers! Yeah you! Pop in an start some non-political threads!

I wasn't saying that there should be less political threads.  I was just pointing out that this forum, very much at the instigation of its owner and his own penchant for self-promotion, has largely become political, and it seems he likes it that way.

It is what it is.  Rather than try vainly to make this forum less political it seems easier to go elsewhere to actually discuss gaming.

As far as I'm concerned this forum is basically a place to come to see what the anti-SJW crowd in the great culture war TM have become worked up about this week.

If the forum was different I would interact with it differently, but so long as it is what it is...

I'm unclear how the RPG hobby becoming politicized by self-described SJWs is RPGPundit's fault. He's not calling them SJWs out of thin air. WotC, Paizo, Green Ronin, Monte Cook, etc are loud and proud about who they are and their agenda for the hobby.

Is the problem that RPGPundit wants to talk about and push back against it?

I completely understand the SJW's takeover of our hobby pleases liberals because it fulfills their cultural agenda, and I equally understand the "too cool for school" kids who want to pretend "cultural agendas" don't exist and the Mushy Middle who just want everybody to play nice and think they can hide until all the angry people go away.

It's easy to "make this forum less political". Just start your own threads on non-political topics. Not rocket science. If more people post more non-political thread topics, the ratio of political vs. non-political will shift.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1106497I'm unclear how the RPG hobby becoming politicized by self-described SJWs is RPGPundit's fault. He's not calling them SJWs out of thin air. WotC, Paizo, Green Ronin, Monte Cook, etc are loud and proud about who they are and their agenda for the hobby.

Is the problem that RPGPundit wants to talk about and push back against it?

I completely understand the SJW's takeover of our hobby pleases liberals because it fulfills their cultural agenda, and I equally understand the "too cool for school" kids who want to pretend "cultural agendas" don't exist and the Mushy Middle who just want everybody to play nice and think they can hide until all the angry people go away.

It's easy to "make this forum less political". Just start your own threads on non-political topics. Not rocket science. If more people post more non-political thread topics, the ratio of political vs. non-political will shift.

I wasn't saying that there should be less political threads. I was just pointing out that this forum, very much at the instigation of its owner and his own penchant for self-promotion, has largely become political, and it seems he likes it that way.

It is what it is. Rather than try vainly to make this forum less political it seems easier to go elsewhere to actually discuss gaming.

As far as I'm concerned this forum is basically a place to come to see what the anti-SJW crowd in the great culture war TM have become worked up about this week.

If the forum was different I would interact with it differently, but so long as it is what it is...

(I'm not really sure how to respond to your post other than repeatingwhat I've already said.)

Quote from: Spinachcat;1106497the RPG hobby becoming politicized by self-described SJWs

Quotethe SJW's takeover of our hobby

Not actually a thing. The problem is that this is too much of what gets talked about here when it's not actually a thing.

Quote from: Jason Coplen;1106071Tatiana Mcgrath might be the parody account you referred to.

That was the one! She's good but not as good as Godfrey Elfwick was.

Really? How is it "not actually a thing"?

Why make believe its not happening when you could cheer for your side's success? Tranny elves! Non binary dwarves! Gay gnome kings! No support of the POTUS allowed on the most popular RPG forum! Consent in Gaming! Social media witch hunts against wrong thinkers in the hobby! Mike Mearls telling dissenters to leave D&D! You have a king's ransom of culture war victories in your corner, yet its "not actually a thing"?

It's like making believe the MSM, academia or social media companies aren't co-opted to the SJW cause.

Quote from: cranebump;1106154(and did you ever stop once, even once, to consider that those SJWs and you DO share a common interest? Or is that just too much to stomach?).

We don't. They hate the entire RPG hobby as it exists, they want to radically change it (that's why so  many of them were/are Storygamers), and part of that radical change is to remove people like me (ideally, if they had the power, straight to a gulag or a killing field for not thinking like them), but (after they've removed me), to also ultimately remove EVERYONE who currently likes the hobby unless those people will submit to them and their dictates.

And they utterly DESPISE D&D. They always have. The ones who were around and are not just entryists were the same people who sneeringly declared that D&D was just a game for the "great unwashed" (to quote a famous nWoD book). The same who said "D&D is just roll-playing, not role-playing". They were always in utter contempt of the game regular people loved, because they knew those regular people didn't love them.

They despise D&D so much that they supported 4e. That takes a soul full of communist bile and utter contempt for everything that's good in the world.

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1106240Bye Felipe.

Why is it so hard for people to just ignore a topic they don't like? Beats me.

"This forum is being OVERRUN with political threads!"

*clicks on RPGs Discussion subforum*

*70% of all threads are about straight rpg stuff with no culture war stuff on them*

Quote from: rawma;1106311Looking at the threads on the front page that have over a hundred replies:
the "Get Woke, Go Broke" thread
the Deadlands thread - I dipped in, and yes, it's as political as I expected
"A new exciting product has been release for the Cypher system" - "Consent in Gaming", as political as you would expect
Monty Cook is a Maoist
Lejendary Adventures Q&A - not political, but also started over a year ago
Science Fiction vs Science Fantasy - surprisingly, not political except for S'mon taking a swipe at Humanities departments
Why does 5e suck at the exploration pillar - actually non political
The males should be stronger thread
The gnome kings thread

In fairness, I expected fewer than 2 (or 3, if you count such the slow growing Q&A thread) to be non-political. Probably the sticky post about OFF TOPIC political posts makes the point better; this forum didn't need that for the almost 5 years I've been here, until a month ago. I'm not patient enough to look through shorter threads, which do get the "it's all because of SJWs/intersectionality/whatever" posts out of left field, but it is the political threads that attract discussion; in the long run that's going to hurt the site, because you'll be replacing long term thoughtful posters with people who apparently couldn't avoid being banned by somewhere else for a whole month.

If you look at ALL the threads, not just those with more than 100 posts, on the first page (excepting the stickies), then 70% of these are non-political.

Obviously, political threads being more controversial, they're likely to generate more posts than a thread about "which Star Wars RPG had the best rules for Blasters".  But in terms of material being produced here (ie. NEW THREADS), the non political threads are still more than two thirds of the RPG forum.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1106330Rawma, start a gaming only topic thread, explain how you want it to be non-political in your OP and tell anyone who gets political in your thread to STFU.

Yup, that would be allowed, and enforced. If you are the person who starts a thread and asks that it NOT be about politics in the hobby, then someone trying to make it about that would be going off topic.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1106556They despise D&D so much that they supported 4e. That takes a soul full of communist bile and utter contempt for everything that's good in the world.

OK, that was hilarious! D&D 4e as a new benchmark low is a riot. /flits about my AD&D 2e princess' & unicorns' secret garden

I think there's actually a lot of culture war content on TBP. What there isn't, is any discourse. All potential dissenters have long since been removed or have the sense to censor themselves. Any dissenting view there is more likely a misreading than a genuine disagreement.

Quote from: TJS;1106464Not just a river in Egypt.

Says the ass clown that went cherry picking on TBP's least populous forum to prove his point. Yeah. Ok. We're done.