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Author Topic: D&D SJWs Cancel Dragonlance, Authors Sue Wizards  (Read 19605 times)

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Re: D&D SJWs Cancel Dragonlance, Authors Sue Wizards
« Reply #105 on: January 05, 2021, 08:01:14 PM »
So it's a "woke" version of the old WarHammer rpg?

The game itself is not particularly woke; it's simply a cleaned-up and organized version of rules designed to reproduce the experience of old-school WFRP.  The occasional woke note only creeps in here and there with the rare boilerplate paragraph about "your PC can be whatever/whoever xie wants to be / there are no sex-based modifiers" etc. -- stuff that looked easily ignorable when flipping through the game.

The mindset of the creator I can't speak to, on the other hand, and I certainly understand more than I did the mindset that says not to give money to people who hate you, even if what you're buying from them doesn't itself embody that hatred.
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« Reply #106 on: January 05, 2021, 09:17:03 PM »
I had read it was a pretty good representation of the 1st/2nd Ed Warhammer stuff, too.

Are there supplements?  If there are, are they any good?
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« Reply #107 on: January 05, 2021, 10:30:32 PM »
Are there supplements?  If there are, are they any good?

There are a few; other than Main Gauche, which I've looked through on shop bookshelves, I can't speak to their quality -- I wouldn't know how much fun a module is to play, for example.

Production value on Main Gauche and the main corebook is excellent, I can confirm that, and if you liked Warhammer (which I didn't, altogether -- I'm just not a grimdark dude by inclination) you will probably like the stuff in there.
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« Reply #108 on: January 06, 2021, 11:27:28 AM »
So my books came in the mail two days ago, but I haven't had a chance to do more than just page through them. I got the Core book, the Player's Handbook, and Main Gauche. Actually, from what I gathered from it, it's pretty interesting... sort of an anti-D&D making GoT look like that terrible D&D movie from the '90s.

When I read them more indepth, I'll make a review thread for everyone to throw shit at.
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« Reply #109 on: January 07, 2021, 08:24:48 AM »
I'm sort of stoked about reading them... mainly Zweihander because it seems to have been made by sane people... or at least people who share the same mental neighborhood with me.
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« Reply #110 on: January 07, 2021, 12:16:34 PM »
I'm sort of stoked about reading them... mainly Zweihander because it seems to have been made by sane people... or at least people who share the same mental neighborhood with me.
Nice try Daniel, you're not fooling anyone.

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« Reply #111 on: January 10, 2021, 06:50:18 PM »
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The game itself is not particularly woke; it's simply a cleaned-up and organized version of rules designed to reproduce the experience of old-school WFRP.  The occasional woke note only creeps in here and there with the rare boilerplate paragraph about "your PC can be whatever/whoever xie wants to be / there are no sex-based modifiers" etc. -- stuff that looked easily ignorable when flipping through the game.

And Danny D. Vixen, creator of 2-hander get really bad rep, not only by being very woke SJW on Twitter - because that's like your usual creator but by being extremely toxic in the internet - in terms of self-promotion, and basic relations with potential customers.

But true if anything - 2hander can be ever less woke than Warhammer, as it's way more humorless and dark, while WHF in RPG was originally - and 4e returned to it's roots - quite comedic and grotesque in its grimdarkness. Vixen decided to keep orkz fungi while also making them pigs and rapists who must rape to spread fungi. So much for Da Boyz.

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I got the Core book, the Player's Handbook, and Main Gauche.

But choice bro - Player's Handbook is 100% excerpts from Core Book XD


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« Reply #112 on: January 10, 2021, 08:24:03 PM »

But choice bro - Player's Handbook is 100% excerpts from Core Book XD

But cash bro... mine, not yours. ;)
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« Reply #113 on: January 11, 2021, 04:09:37 PM »
It should be "bad" and I should stop reading planned sentences aloud before writing them down.

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« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2021, 09:02:51 PM »
I have both games coming in the mail this week and I'm sort of stoked about reading them... mainly Zweihander because it seems to have been made by sane people... or at least people who share the same mental neighborhood with me. We'll see.  Maybe it won't get fucked up by angry and self-loathing people who are, quite honestly, beneath me on the food chain.

Well if the same mental neighborhood you share is spamshilling your stolen game, doxing people who call you out on your behavior, and weaponizing SJWs to remove your competition. And other wonderfully low acts.

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« Reply #115 on: January 11, 2021, 10:04:24 PM »
I have both games coming in the mail this week and I'm sort of stoked about reading them... mainly Zweihander because it seems to have been made by sane people... or at least people who share the same mental neighborhood with me. We'll see.  Maybe it won't get fucked up by angry and self-loathing people who are, quite honestly, beneath me on the food chain.

Well if the same mental neighborhood you share is spamshilling your stolen game, doxing people who call you out on your behavior, and weaponizing SJWs to remove your competition. And other wonderfully low acts.

Far out.

Listen, I didn't know any of these points, don't know any of these points, and don't care to know about any of these points.

What I'm looking at are products which seem to be put together by an individual(s) who write stuff I would like to use. I might even like to game with these fuckers. Dunno. I have looked at Fox's Twitter; don't care for his politics, but then I didn't care for EGG's religion, his attempted financial cornholing of Arneson, or the way he did his first wife... but I liked his products.

And I have a sneaky feeling that if Fox got a peek into my personal politics and philosophies, he'd write a goddamned supplement about that.  But I keep that sort of stuff to myself... until it's far too late.

So, what I'm looking at are some RPG products that are professionally made, well constructed, well laid out, full of indepth rules for role play with many options, developed over time with several play testers... and I'm sure there are some of them who I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire, but whatever...

Now, I'm not shilling for the dude. Just stating my opinion. I'm not sure if I have ever read anything you have written. Have I?

Have you?

So, reviewing your post, I see this: in one hand, I have some anom slinging shit in a post to someone he doesn't know, and in the other hand I have actual physical products created by someone who can fucking come up with the goods.

Take a wild guess which way I'll lean.

Lastly, as to weaponizing SJWs... my view on that is: it's better to be used than useless. ;)
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« Reply #116 on: January 12, 2021, 06:58:05 PM »
Well I sincerely doubt you're the Fox, but yeah as he has very annoying custom of self-promoting under fake accounts, anyone praising Zweihander is suspected.

Then I can agree - some of Zweihander concepts are well done and thought out - like Peril as aditional aspect to Wounds, others like his Order - Chaos dualities are meh, 75% things are just Warhammer with new names anyway.

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« Reply #117 on: January 12, 2021, 07:23:41 PM »
Well I sincerely doubt you're the Fox, but yeah as he has very annoying custom of self-promoting under fake accounts, anyone praising Zweihander is suspected.

Then I can agree - some of Zweihander concepts are well done and thought out - like Peril as aditional aspect to Wounds, others like his Order - Chaos dualities are meh, 75% things are just Warhammer with new names anyway.

Oh wait, are you serious? There are actually people here suspecting I might be Fox?

I'm going to have fun here. :D

Just for the record, and to make shit freakishly clear for those slow on the uptake: I'm James C. Boney from Little Rock. I'm one of the editors for OSRIC RPG, and I have several OSR works published under XRP, Goblinoid Games, and Mythmere Games.  I know there are a few posters here who know me from Knights and Knaves.
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« Reply #118 on: January 12, 2021, 07:28:37 PM »
Well I sincerely doubt you're the Fox, but yeah as he has very annoying custom of self-promoting under fake accounts, anyone praising Zweihander is suspected.

Then I can agree - some of Zweihander concepts are well done and thought out - like Peril as aditional aspect to Wounds, others like his Order - Chaos dualities are meh, 75% things are just Warhammer with new names anyway.

Oh wait, are you serious? There are actually people here suspecting I might be Fox?

I'm going to have fun here. :D

Just for the record, and to make shit freakishly clear for those slow on the uptake: I'm James C. Boney from Little Rock. I'm one of the editors for OSRIC RPG, and I have several OSR works published under XRP, Goblinoid Games, and Mythmere Games.  I know there are a few posters here who know me from Knights and Knaves.

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« Reply #119 on: January 12, 2021, 09:06:09 PM »
Just for the record, and to make shit freakishly clear for those slow on the uptake: I'm James C. Boney from Little Rock. I'm one of the editors for OSRIC RPG, and I have several OSR works published under XRP, Goblinoid Games, and Mythmere Games.  I know there are a few posters here who know me from Knights and Knaves.

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