I think at the end of the day it shows off yet again just how fickle these sociopaths are.

Minorities are soooooo special and should be allowed to play anything!

That is until they play something the cult disapproves of and then they are condemned and demands begin for them to be run out of town.

SJWs will make RPGs "safe" for those poor oppreseded peoples.

As far as I can tell it was actually the opposite, she was condemned and demands began for her to be run out of town, then it was discovered that the player was a woman of color and therefore allowed to play anything.

Quote from: Valatar on February 22, 2021, 02:35:12 PM
As far as I can tell it was actually the opposite, she was condemned and demands began for her to be run out of town, then it was discovered that the player was a woman of color and therefore allowed to play anything.

The original assumption was that the player was a straight white male, thus the SJW shriek-and-swarm. *Then* it was discovered the the player is a woman of color, at which point hilarity ensued.

Quote from: RandyB on February 22, 2021, 02:51:00 PM
The original assumption was that the player was a straight white male, thus the SJW shriek-and-swarm. *Then* it was discovered the the player is a woman of color, at which point hilarity ensued.

Not only did hilarity ensue they refused to apologize for their mistake and claimed they were blameless because the puppet had triggered some kind of sexual dimorphism or something similar. 

Quote from: sureshot on February 23, 2021, 08:24:32 AM

Quote from: RandyB on February 22, 2021, 02:51:00 PM
The original assumption was that the player was a straight white male, thus the SJW shriek-and-swarm. *Then* it was discovered the the player is a woman of color, at which point hilarity ensued.

Not only did hilarity ensue they refused to apologize for their mistake and claimed they were blameless because the puppet had triggered some kind of sexual dimorphism or something similar. 

Yes. That's a major part of the hilarity. They had to scramble to justify their reaction, and that's the best they could come up with.

If you're unwilling to admit when you're wrong, that pretty much implies you're never right.

Quote from: sureshot on February 23, 2021, 08:24:32 AM

Quote from: RandyB on February 22, 2021, 02:51:00 PM
The original assumption was that the player was a straight white male, thus the SJW shriek-and-swarm. *Then* it was discovered the the player is a woman of color, at which point hilarity ensued.

Not only did hilarity ensue they refused to apologize for their mistake and claimed they were blameless because the puppet had triggered some kind of sexual dimorphism or something similar.

That was the part that really got me... I expected the back pedalling when they found out the player was a black woman since it always seems to happen that way, but saying a puppet of a make believe race in a fantasy world triggered your body dysmorphia was just really out there and reaching.

Still, the thought that people actually believe that they somehow have the authority to determine who can and cannot play a specific imaginary character in an imaginary game of imaginary creatures performing imaginary deeds of heroism or villainy is ludicrous. Especially when they also demand other people believe in and support their own fantasies about the world they actually live in.

How these people actually got into positions of power and influence in the RPG world is beyond me. It has never been my experience in 41 years of gaming where anyone was excluded from participation for their sex, race, religion, sexual orientation, or anything else with any of the hundreds of people I know. The only thing that has excluded people in all of these groups was their own behaviour and that includes flaking out and missing games without notice and all the way up to starting fights at the table or being a creep. In other words, if you can't act like a decent human being you were not invited back. 

I propose that we change the term for SJWs in the gaming industry to "SJC," for "social justice crusader," 1) because it's thematic, 2) because it accurately ascribes to them the characteristics they ascribe to the real-world historic crusades, and 3) because it will really irritate them.

Quote from: Samsquantch on February 23, 2021, 11:14:03 AM
How these people actually got into positions of power and influence in the RPG world is beyond me.

Well, they're not CEOs, or writers of anything but vanity project RPGs. So their influence is no more than is given them by others. The middle class have always been very risk-averse, but this has been magnified by online stuff - the nightmare world of Sandra Bullock's The Net has been brought about - and the nightmare there wasn't that she could be deprived of her identity, but that she could live her entire life without in-person contact, at home with her keyboard and mouse.

A life without in-person contact will eventually make any person insane. This insanity may be expressed in anxiety and depression, which the person may channel into The Cause - whatever they happen to latch on to. And so you get a keyboard warrior, a lonely person with too much time on their hands - time enough to harass people's twitter feeds, and the like. And the people owning companies and their staff actually doing productive things see this wave of lonely losers posting on their social media and think "Shit, that's a majority! We better listen to them!"

And of course, the furry transgender nerdfury crowd weeping about "microaggressions" and the like are actually a tiny minority, they're just a very noisy one - online only. But they get listened to by the timid middle class, who are terrified of everything.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on February 23, 2021, 06:42:21 PM

Quote from: Samsquantch on February 23, 2021, 11:14:03 AM
How these people actually got into positions of power and influence in the RPG world is beyond me.

Well, they're not CEOs, or writers of anything but vanity project RPGs. So their influence is no more than is given them by others.

Actually SJWs are very in the big biz. Just usually not, yet, in the big chair. But more often in some influential side position. Marketing it thoroughly infested and pushed this garbage like it was a religion for example. But thats how marketing treats every trendy new thing. They are the writers, the producers, the editors. We are seeing it more and more even in board gaming.
"You cant have George Washington in your historical game! He was wacist!"
"Making a game about exploring Africa is promoting GENOCIDE!"
I kid you not.

Quote from: sureshot on February 23, 2021, 08:24:32 AM

Quote from: RandyB on February 22, 2021, 02:51:00 PM
The original assumption was that the player was a straight white male, thus the SJW shriek-and-swarm. *Then* it was discovered the the player is a woman of color, at which point hilarity ensued.

Not only did hilarity ensue they refused to apologize for their mistake and claimed they were blameless because the puppet had triggered some kind of sexual dimorphism or something similar.

They never apologise.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on February 23, 2021, 06:42:21 PM

Quote from: Samsquantch on February 23, 2021, 11:14:03 AM
How these people actually got into positions of power and influence in the RPG world is beyond me.

Well, they're not CEOs, or writers of anything but vanity project RPGs. So their influence is no more than is given them by others. The middle class have always been very risk-averse, but this has been magnified by online stuff - the nightmare world of Sandra Bullock's The Net has been brought about - and the nightmare there wasn't that she could be deprived of her identity, but that she could live her entire life without in-person contact, at home with her keyboard and mouse.

A life without in-person contact will eventually make any person insane. This insanity may be expressed in anxiety and depression, which the person may channel into The Cause - whatever they happen to latch on to. And so you get a keyboard warrior, a lonely person with too much time on their hands - time enough to harass people's twitter feeds, and the like. And the people owning companies and their staff actually doing productive things see this wave of lonely losers posting on their social media and think "Shit, that's a majority! We better listen to them!"

And of course, the furry transgender nerdfury crowd weeping about "microaggressions" and the like are actually a tiny minority, they're just a very noisy one - online only. But they get listened to by the timid middle class, who are terrified of everything.

I think that sums that up quite well.

Quote from: Omega on February 23, 2021, 08:37:00 PM

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on February 23, 2021, 06:42:21 PM

Quote from: Samsquantch on February 23, 2021, 11:14:03 AM
How these people actually got into positions of power and influence in the RPG world is beyond me.

Well, they're not CEOs, or writers of anything but vanity project RPGs. So their influence is no more than is given them by others.

Actually SJWs are very in the big biz. Just usually not, yet, in the big chair. But more often in some influential side position. Marketing it thoroughly infested and pushed this garbage like it was a religion for example. But thats how marketing treats every trendy new thing. They are the writers, the producers, the editors. We are seeing it more and more even in board gaming.
"You cant have George Washington in your historical game! He was wacist!"
"Making a game about exploring Africa is promoting GENOCIDE!"
I kid you not.

Also very good points.

Quote from: TJS on February 24, 2021, 01:23:28 AM

Quote from: sureshot on February 23, 2021, 08:24:32 AM

Quote from: RandyB on February 22, 2021, 02:51:00 PM
The original assumption was that the player was a straight white male, thus the SJW shriek-and-swarm. *Then* it was discovered the the player is a woman of color, at which point hilarity ensued.

Not only did hilarity ensue they refused to apologize for their mistake and claimed they were blameless because the puppet had triggered some kind of sexual dimorphism or something similar.

They never apologise.

People that never apologize show that they do not care for anyone's feelings but their own. in the case of woke SJWs this was brilliantly demonstrated all summer long by them calling black, brown, asian, and any non white people the most vile and racist names simply because those people chose to think differently than the SJWs and exercise their rights to chose their own political preference. This abhorrent act of ultimate evil meant that they were no longer immune from being attacked and had become the other and the SJWs could take off their masks and show the real hatred and racism in their hearts.

They show this in the gaming world as well but to a much lesser degree with very few instances (that I have seen) of open racism against minorities, and when the offender turns out to be a minority they quickly back pedal just like in the case of the thread topic. I truly cannot comprehend the hypocrisy of these people and the utter lack of self awareness they have. I am genuinely concerned for the future of gaming and society as whole. My hope is that if enough people stop supporting the companies that embrace the wokeness that the loss of income will prompt a return to normalcy and this will just become a bad memory like when TSR changed demons and devils to placate the Satanic Panic crowd.

Quote from: TJS on February 24, 2021, 01:23:28 AM

Quote from: sureshot on February 23, 2021, 08:24:32 AM

Quote from: RandyB on February 22, 2021, 02:51:00 PM
The original assumption was that the player was a straight white male, thus the SJW shriek-and-swarm. *Then* it was discovered the the player is a woman of color, at which point hilarity ensued.

Not only did hilarity ensue they refused to apologize for their mistake and claimed they were blameless because the puppet had triggered some kind of sexual dimorphism or something similar.

They never apologise.

Nope. Same thing happened over in the comic biz with Mark Waid calling Just some Guy a white supremacist. Then deleting his comments when it was pointed out that this person he is attacking is black. Not like that has stopped Waid before from cancelling minorities in the biz who get in the way of his agenda.