So this thread isn't about Gina Carano?

Quote from: MonsterSlayer on February 13, 2021, 01:51:30 AM
So this thread isn't about Gina Carano?

It depends : do you volunteer to call her a Muppet to her face ? 

Quote from: Samsquantch on February 13, 2021, 12:35:47 AM

Quote from: VengerSatanis on February 10, 2021, 03:13:12 PM
Did anyone see WotC official apology last week?  I copied it (with commentary) on my blog: https://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2021/02/wotc-apology-for-stuff-of-legends.html

NEVER FORGET! TIDDY GATE 2021!

Never forget Tiddy Gate!  It's right up there with the Tiddy Alamo!

As related before. Back in the 90s iteration of this stupid I was at ground zero when the moral guardians stepped up their campaign from bitching and trying to "cancel" people to actively sabotaging a major art and indie comic con. They got every comic artist they disapproved of censored at their tables and disapproved art removed from the gallery. Cosplayers were restricted or in a few cases outright denied. They even had armed security in the gaming room watching us.

Next year they had completely taken over the con and "fixed" it. A year later it was gone. A con that had been around over a decade. As of a year or so ago the new iteration of this stupid was at it again.

Quote from: Omega on February 13, 2021, 09:17:51 AM
As related before. Back in the 90s iteration of this stupid I was at ground zero when the moral guardians stepped up their campaign from bitching and trying to "cancel" people to actively sabotaging a major art and indie comic con. They got every comic artist they disapproved of censored at their tables and disapproved art removed from the gallery. Cosplayers were restricted or in a few cases outright denied. They even had armed security in the gaming room watching us.

Next year they had completely taken over the con and "fixed" it. A year later it was gone. A con that had been around over a decade. As of a year or so ago the new iteration of this stupid was at it again.

You mentioned the 90s.  Well, my wife and older daughters watched PCU (short for Politically Correct University) circa 1994 last night.  Amazingly, that movie is more relevant today in 2021 than it has been in the last 15 years.  So many protests, angry college kids raging at "the machine" and each other, faculty actively trying to get certain groups kicked off campus, etc.

One of the few differences was that the suit-wearing young republicans were the bad guys (of course), and today they'd be fighting for free speech and equal opportunity to be heard.

Quote from: Omega on February 13, 2021, 09:17:51 AM
As related before. Back in the 90s iteration of this stupid I was at ground zero when the moral guardians stepped up their campaign from bitching and trying to "cancel" people to actively sabotaging a major art and indie comic con. They got every comic artist they disapproved of censored at their tables and disapproved art removed from the gallery. Cosplayers were restricted or in a few cases outright denied. They even had armed security in the gaming room watching us.

Next year they had completely taken over the con and "fixed" it. A year later it was gone. A con that had been around over a decade. As of a year or so ago the new iteration of this stupid was at it again.

Which convention was this?

Quote from: VengerSatanis on February 13, 2021, 09:23:27 AM
You mentioned the 90s.  Well, my wife and older daughters watched PCU (short for Politically Correct University) circa 1994 last night.  Amazingly, that movie is more relevant today in 2021 than it has been in the last 15 years.  So many protests, angry college kids raging at "the machine" and each other, faculty actively trying to get certain groups kicked off campus, etc.

One of the few differences was that the suit-wearing young republicans were the bad guys (of course), and today they'd be fighting for free speech and equal opportunity to be heard.

That is something we've brought up on occasion here and elsewhere. That these moral guardians will flip flop sides at will, latching onto usually the underdog and running that group into the dirt such they are tomorrows oppression to fight.

As said. In 10 years the next iteration of this will almost certainly be damning this one just as this one damned the prior for doing nothing. And will themselves do nothing because these moral busybodies never do.

This thread needs more boobs, muppet or otherwise, I don't really care.

I think our society has a problem with simultaneously demonizing/sexualizing breasts based on size, from both sides of the political isle. I don't think this attitude has a positive effect on the psychological wellbeing of the female half of the population, but a formal study would be required to ascertain any measurable effects.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on February 13, 2021, 08:12:59 PM
I think our society has a problem with simultaneously demonizing/sexualizing breasts based on size, from both sides of the political isle. I don't think this attitude has a positive effect on the psychological wellbeing of the female half of the population, but a formal study would be required to ascertain any measurable effects.

As a scientist, I volunteer to look at thousands of breasts of varying sizes and record the effects my observations create. I'll even touch them and stuff.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on February 13, 2021, 08:12:59 PM
I think our society has a problem with simultaneously demonizing/sexualizing breasts based on size, from both sides of the political isle. I don't think this attitude has a positive effect on the psychological wellbeing of the female half of the population, but a formal study would be required to ascertain any measurable effects.

Not sure if serious. 

Breasts are a secondary sexual characteristic in Western and some other cultures. Men like breasts. Nipples are an erogenous zone. You basically can't not sexualise breasts.
Demonising large breasts is of course a bad thing, and pretty fucked up.

Quote from: S'mon on February 14, 2021, 02:05:06 AM
Demonising large breasts is of course a bad thing, and pretty fucked up.

It's the same thing as fat ugly chicks criticizing dudes for being attracted to "conventionally attractive" women, whatever the hell that even means. Sorry, get mad at God or something, that's just a biological reaction.

Quote from: Brad on February 14, 2021, 09:03:20 AM

Quote from: S'mon on February 14, 2021, 02:05:06 AM
Demonising large breasts is of course a bad thing, and pretty fucked up.

It's the same thing as fat ugly chicks criticizing dudes for being attracted to "conventionally attractive" women, whatever the hell that even means. Sorry, get mad at God or something, that's just a biological reaction.

They are criticizing dudes for being attracted to "conventionally attractive" women instead of being attracted to the fat ugly chicks themselves. Narcissism at its purest.

Quote from: Brad on February 14, 2021, 09:03:20 AM
It's the same thing as fat ugly chicks criticizing dudes for being attracted to "conventionally attractive" women, whatever the hell that even means. Sorry, get mad at God or something, that's just a biological reaction.

Basically be attracted to me as it's not my fault I'm too lazy and unwilling to do any exercise whatsoever to get men to pay attention to me. It's the same bullshit with trans women suddenly realizing most men are not interested in dating trans women and if your not interested in them then it's transphobia.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on February 13, 2021, 08:12:59 PM
I think our society has a problem with simultaneously demonizing/sexualizing breasts based on size, from both sides of the political isle. I don't think this attitude has a positive effect on the psychological wellbeing of the female half of the population, but a formal study would be required to ascertain any measurable effects.

Quote from: S'mon on February 14, 2021, 02:05:06 AM
Not sure if serious. 

Breasts are a secondary sexual characteristic in Western and some other cultures. Men like breasts. Nipples are an erogenous zone. You basically can't not sexualise breasts.
Demonising large breasts is of course a bad thing, and pretty fucked up.

Quote from: Brad on February 14, 2021, 09:03:20 AM
It's the same thing as fat ugly chicks criticizing dudes for being attracted to "conventionally attractive" women, whatever the hell that even means. Sorry, get mad at God or something, that's just a biological reaction.

Breasts are always sexualized to some degree, but standards of beauty do differ. Some features like symmetry and clear skin are always favored, but things like preferred breast size can differ between different cultures and historical period. An ideal woman in the Renaissance would likely be considered a fat chick today. A topless supermodel with large breasts would command a lot of attention in our culture, but might not get a second glance in some indigenous cultures.

Still, regardless of whether it is biological or cultural, individual people can't fully control what they find attractive.

To BoxCrayonTales' point - there has been a lot of psychological studies on standards of beauty including breast size, but it's a politically charged topic, and I feel like a lot of the studies are even less reliable than usual for psychology. I think not demonizing is generally a good rule - and this applies just as much to unconventional standards as to conventional standards.