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D&D Commissars, coming to store near you.

Started by Arkansan, April 15, 2021, 12:24:12 PM

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This Guy

#15
April 15, 2021, 06:41:57 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 15, 2021, 03:26:58 PM
I rather run MY own universe without other imput than the PCs acctions on it thank you.

What's good about it
I don\'t want to play with you.

rocksfalleverybodydies

#16
April 16, 2021, 12:30:17 AM
Probation periods, bureaucratic submission reviews, being part of the party long enough to be deemed worthy.
I get why the store is doing it but why would anyone want to go through all this to become a member of the NKVD&D?

They're going to offer an opportunity to buy the store's stuff at cost to work for them?  Sounds splendid comrade!

Need free space?  Use the library: it needs more patronage these days.

Kyle Aaron

#17
April 16, 2021, 12:50:00 AM
Quote from: ScytheSong on April 15, 2021, 01:38:50 PM[...]then I was allowed to run my own plot/campaign as a full Storyteller. If this kind of control by a group over who runs their games is a canary in the coal mine, the mine has always been full of gas.
In other words, a gas with the stench of storygames.
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Conflict, the adventure game of modern warfare
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Ghostmaker

#18
April 16, 2021, 08:10:49 AM
Quote from: rocksfalleverybodydies on April 16, 2021, 12:30:17 AM
Probation periods, bureaucratic submission reviews, being part of the party long enough to be deemed worthy.
I get why the store is doing it but why would anyone want to go through all this to become a member of the NKVD&D?

They're going to offer an opportunity to buy the store's stuff at cost to work for them?  Sounds splendid comrade!

Need free space?  Use the library: it needs more patronage these days.
Hell, there's a nearby brewpub in my neck of the woods with plenty of space; pretty certain they wouldn't mind several folks getting together for a beer and a few hours of dice rolling.

Godsmonkey

#19
April 16, 2021, 09:09:24 AM
Quote from: rocksfalleverybodydies on April 16, 2021, 12:30:17 AM

Need free space?  Use the library: it needs more patronage these days.

Many libraries already run games, either staff GMed, or volunteer. If you want to extend game mastering beyond your own home, it's a great way to spread the hobby.

even better if you are less SJW inclined. You have the opportunity to counter some of the indoctrination going on.

Brad

#20
April 16, 2021, 09:51:45 AM
Didn't see any requirement for Kung-flu vaccine, but I assume that's coming soon enough.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

This Guy

#21
April 16, 2021, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: Godsmonkey on April 16, 2021, 09:09:24 AM
Quote from: rocksfalleverybodydies on April 16, 2021, 12:30:17 AM

Need free space?  Use the library: it needs more patronage these days.

Many libraries already run games, either staff GMed, or volunteer. If you want to extend game mastering beyond your own home, it's a great way to spread the hobby.

even better if you are less SJW inclined. You have the opportunity to counter some of the indoctrination going on.

Reject bad and wrong SJW indoctrination, embrace good and right conservative indoctrination. Always Be Indoctrinatin
I don\'t want to play with you.

Nosaje

#22
April 16, 2021, 03:07:17 PM
This seems to be for a shared world, so I think it is reasonable to ask for some conformity from the DMs. However it way to much bureaucracy, they are treating it like it is a job interview. It is a game people it is supposed to be fun.

Renegade_Productions

#23
April 16, 2021, 03:22:13 PM
Quote from: Brad on April 16, 2021, 09:51:45 AM
Didn't see any requirement for Kung-flu vaccine, but I assume that's coming soon enough.

If WOTC makes that mandatory, this whole experiment will die overnight. Probably for the best though, no matter how it happens.

ScytheSong

#24
April 16, 2021, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron on April 16, 2021, 12:50:00 AM
Quote from: ScytheSong on April 15, 2021, 01:38:50 PM[...]then I was allowed to run my own plot/campaign as a full Storyteller. If this kind of control by a group over who runs their games is a canary in the coal mine, the mine has always been full of gas.
In other words, a gas with the stench of storygames.

If you're confusing storygames and the Storyteller system (especially the one from c. 1998), I reserve the right to point and laugh.

Kyle Aaron

#25
April 16, 2021, 10:05:37 PM
Quote from: ScytheSong on April 16, 2021, 05:26:06 PMyou're confusing storygames and the Storyteller system
The father of a bastard son is still the father.
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This Guy

#26
April 16, 2021, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron on April 16, 2021, 10:05:37 PM
Quote from: ScytheSong on April 16, 2021, 05:26:06 PMyou're confusing storygames and the Storyteller system
The father of a bastard son is still the father.

That thing Edwards hated and made storygames in reaction to is def a father, which is why D&D is the worst bastard of all.
I don\'t want to play with you.

ScytheSong

#27
April 16, 2021, 10:30:07 PM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron on April 16, 2021, 10:05:37 PM

The father of a bastard son is still the father.

More like claiming that NATO stinks of Josef Stalin.

Kyle Aaron

#28
April 17, 2021, 02:19:42 AM
Quote from: This Guy on April 16, 2021, 10:09:49 PMThat thing Edwards hated and made storygames in reaction to is def a father, which is why D&D is the worst bastard of all.
Edwards hated all games. But his ideas of "story" came from Vampire et al. He just thought they didn't do it properly.

http://www.indie-rpgs.com/archive/index.php?topic=18707.0

A guy mentions Vampire, and Edwards says,

Quote from: Ron EdwardsConsider that there's a reason I and most other people call an adult having sex with a, say, twelve-year-old, to be abusive. Never mind if it's, technically speaking, consensual. It's still abuse. Why? Because the younger person's mind is currently developing - these experiences are going to be formative in ways that experiences ten years later will not be. I'm not sure if you are familiar with the characteristic behaviors of someone with this history, but I am very familiar with them - and they are not constructive or happiness-oriented behaviors at all. The person's mind has been damaged while it was forming, and it takes a hell of a lot of re-orientation even for functional repairs (which is not the same as undoing the damage).

If someone wants to take issue with my use of the term "brain" when I'm talking about the "mind," I just shrug. As I see it, the mind is the physiological outcome of a working brain. Mess around with the input as the brain/mind forms, and you short-circuit it, messing up steps which themselves would have been the foundation of further steps. You could be talking about an experience such as I mention above, or you could be talking about sticking a needle into someone's head and wiggling it around. Brain, mind, damage. I don't distinguish.

All that is the foundation for my point: that the routine human capacity for understanding, enjoying, and creating stories is damaged in this fashion by repeated "storytelling role-playing" as promulgated through many role-playing games of a specific type.

Thus, Ron Edwards' experiences of, or perception of other people's experiences of trying to create "story" through the Storyteller system were the inspiration for his "storygame" retardation.

Thus: White Wolf is the father of the bastard son, storygames.

And for bonus points:

Quote from: Ron Edwardsthe Sorcerer rules work, but the gamer brain (well, the "story-oriented" variety) does not.
"My rules r great u r teh dumb lolz"
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David Johansen

#29
April 18, 2021, 04:22:26 PM
meh...I own the store I DM in.
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