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D&D BEYOND Supporting BLM

Started by JeffB, June 01, 2020, 04:06:09 PM

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Taggie

Quote from: Snowman0147;1132163Last Martin Luther King Jr. would disagree with you entirely.

'But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard.
And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met.
And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquillity and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation's summers of riots are caused by our nation's winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention.'  -Martin Luther King April 14, 1967, in 'The Other America'

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Taggie;1132162Then what methods would have cleaned out the 15-20% of the police who are violent thugs, and the 60-70% who enable and cover for them?

First off, where do you get your numbers?

Second off, I have yet to see a police officer defend or excuse the killing. I have seen police officers condemn it, seen them march with protesters, and even those cops who kneeled to black people in solidarity.

Third off, the officer in question was fired and has been charged with murder. What more could anyone realistically ask for? Since we don't live in a magical world where no one ever acts badly, we have to make do with what we have.

From what I've heard, this officer had a terrible track record. An investigation into why he was in the force so long and how would be warranted. But an invesigation isn't as exciting as riots.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

FelixGamingX1

What an angry youth, what do they gain from so much destruction? What are their demands to begin with? Arson and looting is only sending one message, that these criminals belong in jail. What's next? That's not how reform works!
American writer and programmer, since 2016.
https://knightstabletoprpg.com

Taggie

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1132166First off, where do you get your numbers?

Second off, I have yet to see a police officer defend or excuse the killing. I have seen police officers condemn it, seen them march with protesters, and even those cops who kneeled to black people in solidarity.

Third off, the officer in question was fired and has been charged with murder. What more could anyone realistically ask for? Since we don't live in a magical world where no one ever acts badly, we have to make do with what we have.

From what I've heard, this officer had a terrible track record. An investigation into why he was in the force so long and how would be warranted. But an invesigation isn't as exciting as riots.


The use of RICO to bust all the co-conspirators that kept him in the police force, dozens, if not hundreds of cops going to jail, all involved in that action, the police filmed striking sat down protestors to be jailed for assault with a deadly weapon. those filmed dumping medical supplies taken of medics to be prosecuted for theft, those dragging people from peaceful crowds to be charged with kidnap, for the police to be shattered on the wheel, until the remaining few remember they are servants, not masters.

Taggie

Quote from: FelixGamingX1;1132167What an angry youth, what do they gain from so much destruction? What are their demands to begin with? Arson and looting is only sending one message, that these criminals belong in jail. What's next? That's not how reform works!

it worked for the founding fathers.

Mistwell

Quote from: JeffB;1131901Hmmmm.





Sadly,  they are stepping into a big pool of political shit going down this road.

What would be an objective indication that this has resulted in a "pool of political shit" for them? Do you expect their sales to drop by some measurable and meaningful amount? Go up? Lose some core fan promoters, or gain some?

Because I think it will be a blip which results in absolutely no meaningful impact on them one way or the other. But I am curious to hear your prediction.

Mistwell

Quote from: Spinachcat;1131924Can someone support BLM and be against riots?

Yes, of course they can. What a silly thing to even ask.

Mistwell

Quote from: Razor 007;1131934"I" do not support BLM in any way, and now I'll never do any business with D&D Beyond.

Big supporter of D&D Beyond before, were you?

FelixGamingX1

Quote from: Taggie;1132169it worked for the founding fathers.
Those were different times. Tea party was a heroic act of patriotism. There's no patriotism in recent events, only anger and lust for destruction.
American writer and programmer, since 2016.
https://knightstabletoprpg.com

DocJones

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1132166First off, where do you get your numbers?

Taggie is just making stuff up.
Actual facts aren't friendly to the "movement".

Taggie

Quote from: DocJones;1132176Taggie is just making stuff up.
Actual facts aren't friendly to the "movement".

I was low balling based on the actions of police, as observed in daily life.

Taggie

Quote from: DocJones;1132176Taggie is just making stuff up.
Actual facts aren't friendly to the "movement".

besides, the president has shown the way, just making stuff up wins elections, so why not copy a winning tactic?

Theory of Games

WTF?

WotC has really embraced the wild left, presenting a real issue for those who don't support that wing.

How much does BLM care about D&D?
TTRPGs are just games. Friends are forever.

Abraxus

Quote from: Taggie;1132107and I hope the cops murder you for kicks, as they do daily.

Right back at you and yours Zoomer.

Except your dumb enough to try and start something with the police and get shot. I actually have common sense and survival skills and not escalate the situation with someone carrying a gun.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Taggie;1132168The use of RICO to bust all the co-conspirators that kept him in the police force, dozens, if not hundreds of cops going to jail, all involved in that action, the police filmed striking sat down protestors to be jailed for assault with a deadly weapon. those filmed dumping medical supplies taken of medics to be prosecuted for theft, those dragging people from peaceful crowds to be charged with kidnap, for the police to be shattered on the wheel, until the remaining few remember they are servants, not masters.

Setting aside the hyperbole, I'd be fine with most of that. The police should be held responsible for their policing.

Now, how does burning down a tennament in a black neighborhood accomplish all that?
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung