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Author Topic: D&D 5th Edition.  (Read 4622 times)

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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2017, 12:00:12 am »
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We have seen this with the Forgotten Realms, Dragonlance, and just about every other major setting to take off in gaming. The fiction writers disregarding everything outside of their little bubble.

And only believing their characters they are choosing to write matter in the setting. And it is that view that has spawned the ugliness of metaplot.

A proper working gaming setting needs to be about the PCs. About their impact on the world about them. About the footprints they leave behind. Because that's really what the players are there for. For their characters to be the heroez, To eventually be the legends.

1: Actually the early DL books were I believe essentially based on gaming sessions? Akin to the Lodoss War novels were based off the original DX sessions.

2: Um... You mean the stories that are (usually) following usually a specific group of adventurers? You mean like any standard game session?

3: In yours maybee. Not in other peoples.

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« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2017, 12:41:30 am »
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It's the pet NPC thing all over again. Which never ends well for anyone.

I dunno, I've done it a couple of times, using them to pad the party, actually, I had a couple NPC's that I created and the players want to keep them around.  Then again, I do give the PC's full info on their stats, and let THEM roll for the characters, maybe that's what's different?  I dunno, it's best done in short bursts, I think, and they should not overshadow the PC's.
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« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2017, 09:34:26 am »
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3: In yours maybee. Not in other peoples.

I have been playing and running RPGs since the mid-80's. I have seen a lot of what works and what doesn't.

D&D players come into the experience with certain base assumptions. And the game's basic setup caters to that. Those assumptions haven't really changed since the game's earliest editions.

If a DM decides they are too clever. And they deviate too far from those assumptions the players come to the table with. They are risking disappointed and unhappy players. Which invites a bad end.
 

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« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2017, 09:40:05 am »
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I dunno, I've done it a couple of times, using them to pad the party, actually, I had a couple NPC's that I created and the players want to keep them around.  Then again, I do give the PC's full info on their stats, and let THEM roll for the characters, maybe that's what's different?  I dunno, it's best done in short bursts, I think, and they should not overshadow the PC's.

Actually. What you describe is not the pet NPC thing. Thankfully.

The Pet NPC is created as a star character. Most commonly used to outshine the player characters. They are almost always the result of an insecure DM on an ego trip. One that believes that they need to be the center of of the group's attention. More than they already are just by being the DM.
 

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« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2017, 07:22:16 pm »
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I have been playing and running RPGs since the mid-80's. I have seen a lot of what works and what doesn't.

D&D players come into the experience with certain base assumptions. And the game's basic setup caters to that. Those assumptions haven't really changed since the game's earliest editions.

If a DM decides they are too clever. And they deviate too far from those assumptions the players come to the table with. They are risking disappointed and unhappy players. Which invites a bad end.



This definitely calls for a lawsuit.

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« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2017, 01:34:46 am »
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This definitely calls for a lawsuit.

I see what you did there.

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« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2017, 06:16:33 pm »
My interest in D&D 5th Edition was greatly enhanced when I heard that the concepts of Kits from AD&D 2nd Edition had been revisited. It was one of the big aspects I really missed from that age.

D&D 3rd Edition was a fine enough implementation to me. But I thought it was lacking in options for personalizing and customizing just the basic character classes.

Prestige Classes are all well and good for what function they perform. But honestly. It just felt that the basic classes were treated as mostly vanilla and uniform.

There seemed, design-wise, just excuses made to make more new classes that in general filled the same roles as many of the basic classes instead.
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« Reply #52 on: May 01, 2017, 03:36:46 pm »
I just sent for the following 5th Edition D&D books:

Player's Handbook
Dungeon Master's Guide
Monster Manual
Volo's Guide To Monsters
Sword Coast Player's Guide
Dungeon Master's Screen

And I would like to thank the people here who convinced me to take the plunge and get them. I got each product at very close to 50% off with Amazon. And I am excited to get my hands on them.

Amazon said they could be here in my hands as early as the 5th. So I am really happy.

I also bought the data package for D&D 5th Edition for Hero Lab.
 

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« Reply #53 on: May 01, 2017, 04:20:07 pm »
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I just sent for the following 5th Edition D&D books:

Player's Handbook
Dungeon Master's Guide
Monster Manual
Volo's Guide To Monsters
Sword Coast Player's Guide
Dungeon Master's Screen

And I would like to thank the people here who convinced me to take the plunge and get them. I got each product at very close to 50% off with Amazon. And I am excited to get my hands on them.

Amazon said they could be here in my hands as early as the 5th. So I am really happy.

I also bought the data package for D&D 5th Edition for Hero Lab.

Make sure to find the instructions to install the community pack for Hero Lab 5e. It's a very good tool.
"Anyways, I for one never felt like it had a worse 'yiff factor' than any other system." -- RPGPundit

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« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2017, 06:13:22 pm »
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Make sure to find the instructions to install the community pack for Hero Lab 5e. It's a very good tool.

Did so just a few moments ago. Thank you very much for the heads up.
 

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« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2017, 06:49:29 pm »
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Did so just a few moments ago. Thank you very much for the heads up.

If you use Fantasy Grounds, when I'm home later I can link to a XML converter someone made.
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« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2017, 01:38:31 am »
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If you use Fantasy Grounds, when I'm home later I can link to a XML converter someone made.

I don't use Fantasy Grounds.
 

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« Reply #57 on: May 02, 2017, 10:06:39 am »
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I don't use Fantasy Grounds.

AH no worries then. I find it useful since they added an option to manually input dice, which means it can be used as a campaign manager for pen and paper games as well as a VTT.
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« Reply #58 on: May 07, 2017, 02:19:46 pm »
I got my D&D 5th Edition books today. They were waiting downstairs in the package lockers. Safe and sound.

The one thing I noticed right away was: The turn to simplicity that 5th Edition has taken. Gone are Prestige Classes and all of the attendant complexity. They are replaced with a simpler, more elegant method of presenting the ideas. Allowing a lot of basic class customization.

In the end: I am very happy with the products I now have.

The books I have seem to be a later printing. With errata incorporated. So this definitely was the time to buy 5th Edition for me.
 

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« Reply #59 on: May 07, 2017, 03:23:37 pm »
Yes. The books are now in I believe the 6th printing so depending on the iteration you got. Yes it has all the errata and corrections in.

Mine are 1st prints so had lots of little goofs and a few omissions. Check the WOTC site and they have a list. Should be able to tell what printing you have in the front of the book?