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Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 06, 2021, 07:56:42 PM

We want to play elf games, to have fun, to enjoy some escapism. If you want to inject your ideology and it disagrees with my fears then my wallet is closed.

Fixed that for you.

Which isn't a problem. No-one expects you to buy Reichstar and love every page. but to have a mini fit saying that alms for the poor isn't socialism because Karl Marx hadn't invented the term yet is pathetic.

I'm not buying japanese magic girl RPGs because I'm not interested in that shit. I don't need to make up some excuse that Japan has an emperor and I don't like imperialism so....

Quote from: Pelorus on December 07, 2021, 04:44:32 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 06, 2021, 07:56:42 PM

We want to play elf games, to have fun, to enjoy some escapism. If you want to inject your ideology and it disagrees with my fears then my wallet is closed.

Fixed that for you.

Which isn't a problem. No-one expects you to buy Reichstar and love every page. but to have a mini fit saying that alms for the poor isn't socialism because Karl Marx hadn't invented the term yet is pathetic.

I'm not buying japanese magic girl RPGs because I'm not interested in that shit. I don't need to make up some excuse that Japan has an emperor and I don't like imperialism so....

Nice goalpost-shifting.  You could get work prepping NFL stadiums.  Let me explain it to you in terms of "principle" (you can look that word up later.  We both know leftists don't have principles, only tactics).:

I don't spend my money on products made by people who hate me and want to see my prosperity and way of life destroyed.  There is no way for me to know these things unless the company itself (or its representatives) tell me that they do.. So, the only way DCC can end up on my do-not-buy list is for them to speak or act in a way that makes it clear that they support the woking of gaming.  Retroactively changing pronouns is a waste of money, unless your purpose is to woke-signal to the forces of evil.  Hence I will not buy their products.  I have done nothing to create this situation.  It's all on their actions and motivations (which they have been clear about).

Quote from: Ruprecht on December 03, 2021, 10:38:40 AM
I want to see one of these woke companies create a table to generate your characters (or NPC) gender randomly. That would be super-entertaining.

What would be the point? It would only be 50% male 50% female since all the other genders would fall under the "randomly generated mental illness" table.

Back on Topic. Such as it is.

Has DCC actually done anything yet or is it all still just crowing and no rowing?

Quote from: Eirikrautha on December 07, 2021, 06:54:41 AM

I don't spend my money on products made by people who hate me and want to see my prosperity and way of life destroyed.  There is no way for me to know these things unless the company itself (or its representatives) tell me that they do.. So, the only way DCC can end up on my do-not-buy list is for them to speak or act in a way that makes it clear that they support the woking of gaming.  Retroactively changing pronouns is a waste of money, unless your purpose is to woke-signal to the forces of evil.  Hence I will not buy their products.  I have done nothing to create this situation.  It's all on their actions and motivations (which they have been clear about).

Totally fair enough.

I still think not buying something is a great prerogative. I think not buying something because of pronouns is infantile. But then I find the idea of "forces of evil" infantile.

I stopped buying WoD because the writing was shit and one of the writers was a rapist. It wasn't because they equalised their pronoun usage. But everyone has their break point.

Quote from: Eirikrautha on December 07, 2021, 06:54:41 AM

Quote from: Pelorus on December 07, 2021, 04:44:32 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 06, 2021, 07:56:42 PM

We want to play elf games, to have fun, to enjoy some escapism. If you want to inject your ideology and it disagrees with my fears then my wallet is closed.

Fixed that for you.

Which isn't a problem. No-one expects you to buy Reichstar and love every page. but to have a mini fit saying that alms for the poor isn't socialism because Karl Marx hadn't invented the term yet is pathetic.

I'm not buying japanese magic girl RPGs because I'm not interested in that shit. I don't need to make up some excuse that Japan has an emperor and I don't like imperialism so....

Nice goalpost-shifting.  You could get work prepping NFL stadiums.  Let me explain it to you in terms of "principle" (you can look that word up later.  We both know leftists don't have principles, only tactics).:

I don't spend my money on products made by people who hate me and want to see my prosperity and way of life destroyed.  There is no way for me to know these things unless the company itself (or its representatives) tell me that they do.. So, the only way DCC can end up on my do-not-buy list is for them to speak or act in a way that makes it clear that they support the woking of gaming.  Retroactively changing pronouns is a waste of money, unless your purpose is to woke-signal to the forces of evil.  Hence I will not buy their products.  I have done nothing to create this situation.  It's all on their actions and motivations (which they have been clear about).

Dude, you're arguing with an imbecile that thinks that socialists invented roads, streetlights, firefighters, police...

I'm betting his player rolled the attributes with a d20 and got 1 in INT and maybe 2 in WIS.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 07, 2021, 11:19:36 AM
Dude, you're arguing with an imbecile that thinks that socialists invented roads, streetlights, firefighters, police...
I'm betting his player rolled the attributes with a d20 and got 1 in INT and maybe 2 in WIS.

Jesus, I haven't seen a burn like that since....E.T.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 06, 2021, 07:56:42 PM
We want to play elf games, to have fun, to enjoy some escapism. If you want to inject your ideology then my wallet is closed.

Quote from: Eirikrautha on December 07, 2021, 06:54:41 AM
I don't spend my money on products made by people who hate me and want to see my prosperity and way of life destroyed.

Personally, I play games to have fun. I don't care about the politics of who writes the game or how they feel about me. I buy and play games based on whether I enjoy the game material. I do engage in activism to promote my causes through various activist groups and my church -- but how I game isn't part of my activism.

Quote from: jhkim on December 07, 2021, 01:21:22 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 06, 2021, 07:56:42 PM
We want to play elf games, to have fun, to enjoy some escapism. If you want to inject your ideology then my wallet is closed.

Quote from: Eirikrautha on December 07, 2021, 06:54:41 AM
I don't spend my money on products made by people who hate me and want to see my prosperity and way of life destroyed.

Personally, I play games to have fun. I don't care about the politics of who writes the game or how they feel about me. I buy and play games based on whether I enjoy the game material. I do engage in activism to promote my causes through various activist groups and my church -- but how I game isn't part of my activism.

That's all fine and dandy, now tell me, why do you think you're refuting what I said?

Would you enjoy a game that's really alt-right propaganda? I wouldn't, just like I wouldn't enjoy one that's Ctrl-Left (so all the left) propaganda, or Christian propaganda, or Libertarian propaganda.

And I'm a Christian and do agree a lot with Libertarian principles.

Also, then you would gladly ghive money to a company that's promoting that all Christians be put in concentration camps? What if it was anyone from "Asian" descent? Would you still give them money? Knowing it will be used to promote hatred against those people?

I wouldn't, not only because I regained my faith (I wouldn't have done so while I was an Atheist either) and I'm not from "Asian" descent (Unless you count the fact that Mongols raped all over the old world and I might have some Mongol in me).

So I wouldn't give money to people that hate you and want to hurt you just like I will not give money to people that hate me and want to hurt me.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 07, 2021, 01:37:58 PM
And I'm a Christian and do agree a lot with Libertarian principles.

That explains it. That's a complex juxtaposition of Jesus' teaching* and the fucking nonsense Libertarians believe.




*while he lived before Marx, I think it's safe to say Jesus was a socialist.

Quote from: Pelorus on December 07, 2021, 01:51:37 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 07, 2021, 01:37:58 PM
And I'm a Christian and do agree a lot with Libertarian principles.

That explains it. That's a complex juxtaposition of Jesus' teaching* and the fucking nonsense Libertarians believe.




*while he lived before Marx, I think it's safe to say Jesus was a socialist.

And to the surprise of no one, you just showed yourself as completely fucking retarded.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 07, 2021, 01:57:10 PM
And to the surprise of no one, you just showed yourself as completely fucking retarded.

Yeah 😏, I forgot that part of the gospel where Jesus said "Get what you can and fuck everyone else"

How can you be an adult in the 21st century and not know these things?

Quote from: Banjo Destructo on December 07, 2021, 09:46:03 AM

Quote from: Ruprecht on December 03, 2021, 10:38:40 AM
I want to see one of these woke companies create a table to generate your characters (or NPC) gender randomly. That would be super-entertaining.

What would be the point? It would only be 50% male 50% female since all the other genders would fall under the "randomly generated mental illness" table.

Not if a woke company made the list. If a woke company made the list they'd have to update their manual daily to keep up.

Quote from: Pelorus on December 07, 2021, 02:04:25 PM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 07, 2021, 01:57:10 PM
And to the surprise of no one, you just showed yourself as completely fucking retarded.

Yeah 😏, I forgot that part of the gospel where Jesus said "Get what you can and fuck everyone else"

How can you be an adult in the 21st century and not know these things?

There's nothing I can do to help you if you honest to God think that's what comprised capitalism.