Ironic.

But what are their pronouns?

Glad I haven't wasted any money on Goodman products.  I had considered buying some of their Judges Guild reprints, but found what I wanted on Ebay instead.

As others have said, the DCC notion of being based on Appendix N, something that the nouveau gamers HATE, makes this move puzzling. I also agree (having a female Mexican and gay male as long time players in my group who also agree with me) that if you require pronouns to play (like some have intimated on the DCC Rocks! Facebook group) that you should not be at my table in the first place because I don't want you near me, and neither do they. Is this a Goodman Games ploy to sell more books (like their infinite amount of cover variations (which apparently people are tired of)? If so are they saying that those of us who used those books are just unwashed bigots? Either way, I will make some money selling the road crew swag I earned on eBay.

I do wonder if others, like Jim Wampler who is behind Mutant Crawl Classics and Scientific Barbarian among other titles, will need to also comply, or do they have free choice?

Quote from: bat on November 21, 2021, 03:17:59 PM
I do wonder if others, like Jim Wampler who is behind Mutant Crawl Classics and Scientific Barbarian among other titles, will need to also comply, or do they have free choice?

Wampler is a self-avowed feminist, I wouldn't be surprised if he was pushing this himself or at least compliant.

We were just talking about this on Inappropriate Characters!

Join me, Venger Satanis & Jobe as we talk about Goodman games, some more praiseworthy things in the hobby, and maybe about a certain recent court case...
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Sad to hear Goodman and DCC are choking on woke dick.
Looking forward now to their company's demise.
May the spectre of "go woke, go broke" take another victim.

But I am more importantly looking forward to the success of VengerCon, and its growth and success in the future. https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-2022

As I've said before, the path forward is segregation in the hobby. Everybody who wants to suck woke cock should enjoy their own space, far away from the rest of us.

Not just in regards to conventions or forums, but parallel hobby industry as well.

If you are not leftist commie trash, don't buy their products. Don't fund them. Don't reward them. There are plenty of game designers who (a) are smart enough to keep politics out of their games or (b) actually don't hate you.

Quote from: Spinachcat on November 22, 2021, 05:49:40 PM


As I've said before, the path forward is segregation in the hobby. Everybody who wants to suck woke cock should enjoy their own space, far away from the rest of us.

Not just in regards to conventions or forums, but parallel hobby industry as well.

If you are not leftist commie trash, don't buy their products. Don't fund them. Don't reward them. There are plenty of game designers who (a) are smart enough to keep politics out of their games or (b) actually don't hate you.

IMAO, you should have your consumer dollars do your talking, just like you do for any other product or service. This applies in the gaming hobby as well as for web search, cell phones, computer software/OS's, banks, and so on.

I think passively segregating the hobby (i.e., don't go to cons that advocate for the "wrong" side of the woke bandwagon [goes both ways- if you are woke, and the con doesn't provide X cards, stay away; if you detest X cards, go to a con that doesn't impose them]) is the inevitable outcome.

I go to a con to game, not be castigated because of my skin color, genitalia, or politics. I'm perfectly willing to not talk politics at the table (does "Lets go Brandon" or "Orange Man Bad" contribute anything constructive to a hex crawl? How about "Taxation is theft!"?). I fear that actively segregating is going to turn out badly for the hobby however as the politically uninformed will be misinformed that one side's cons are cesspools of ism's and stay away from those (and after going to a woke con, the right of center folks will outright leave the hobby).

Quote from: Howard on November 22, 2021, 06:09:05 PMIMAO, you should have your consumer dollars do your talking,

Absolutely. Everyone has the right to vote with our feet and our dollars.

Quote from: Howard on November 22, 2021, 06:09:05 PMI fear that actively segregating is going to turn out badly for the hobby however as the politically uninformed will be misinformed that one side's cons are cesspools of ism's and stay away from those (and after going to a woke con, the right of center folks will outright leave the hobby).

The hobby is already turning out badly.

Yes, any convention that declares itself non-woke will be declared NaughtyNaziCon on Twatter and banned from any of the goodthink spaces. So what? That's actually good advertising toward anyone sick of the woke bullshit.

As for the confused mushy middle, I'm very done worrying about the sheep wandering into the slaughterhouse when they all have supercomputers in their pockets that can access the same facts and reality we have. Yuri Bezmenov's interviews are still on YouTube, not hidden somewhere on the dark web.

Also, its great for clueless people to run into the woke buzzsaw at their cons! Nothing sears the mind like direct contact and personal experience. It will only make them more grateful and vocal when they discover DeplorableCon.

Quote from: Spinachcat on November 22, 2021, 06:24:33 PM

Yes, any convention that declares itself non-woke will be declared NaughtyNaziCon on Twatter and banned from any of the goodthink spaces. So what? That's actually good advertising toward anyone sick of the woke bullshit.

As for the confused mushy middle, I'm very done worrying about the sheep wandering into the slaughterhouse when they all have supercomputers in their pockets that can access the same facts and reality we have. Yuri Bezmenov's interviews are still on YouTube, not hidden somewhere on the dark web.

Also, its great for clueless people to run into the woke buzzsaw at their cons! Nothing sears the mind like direct contact and personal experience. It will only make them more grateful and vocal when they discover DeplorableCon.

The younger ones (the 30 and under types), sure. The ones my age (just north of 50) are just getting to see Woke Inc and wondering what the heck is going on. One person nominally left was ranting about her new job and its snowflake training- basically all the garbage that the right has been on about for years. She is active on FB, birdsong, and I assume instagram and yet hadn't encountered this stuff until now. Most of the rest of the folks there were in agreement (some didn't speak up) even though they too are D's. Unlike her, I dumped FB years ago, and never went for the concept of condensing my writings to 140 characters or less or posting pictures. She has a pocket surveillance device tethered to her at all times. My dumbphone sits turned off on my counter or in the console of my car for weeks at a time. Same ethnic group. By all measures other than my being politically to her right (political compass says barely right of center mind you), I should be the one who is unaware.

You have to be smacked hard and wide before you see the problem (unclear if she does yet, but at least the circuit to the lightbulb has been shown to work). Maybe the far left rantings of her college aged kid will do it.

Quote from: HappyDaze on November 15, 2021, 11:56:21 PM
Any links to the details of the murders you've seen related to the indie comic con and convention art circuits?

So far as I know. No actual murders have occurred. But theres been one near shooting, and two poisoning attempts in the last 5-10 years I've heard of from friends that attend cons and one that keeps track of the larger moral outrage/SJW attacks. I do not track this stuff as it is depressing to see these creeps rise in power again. I had my fill of this back in the 90s iteration. And back then they would gloat over any "disapproved" artists death.

Quote from: Spinachcat on November 22, 2021, 05:49:40 PM
As I've said before, the path forward is segregation in the hobby. Everybody who wants to suck woke cock should enjoy their own space, far away from the rest of us.

Yes... Yes... Yes... I've been saying that for years too. I don't give a cup of cold piss what these woke fools do as long as it's away from me.

That said, to actually create a real schism, would take a concerted effort. Which most grognards don't seem willing to do, imo.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 25, 2021, 06:26:03 AM

Quote from: Spinachcat on November 22, 2021, 05:49:40 PM
As I've said before, the path forward is segregation in the hobby. Everybody who wants to suck woke cock should enjoy their own space, far away from the rest of us.

Yes... Yes... Yes... I've been saying that for years too. I don't give a cup of cold piss what these woke fools do as long as it's away from me.

That said, to actually create a real schism, would take a concerted effort. Which most grognards don't seem willing to do, imo.

Hows that going to work? They just re-co-opt any new havens and oust you again because they know you will knuckle under their jackboots eventually rather than keep fighting the long war. And all they need are a few useful idiots in the haven to get a foothold and start spreading their mental disease again.

Quote from: Omega on November 25, 2021, 06:38:29 AM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 25, 2021, 06:26:03 AM

Quote from: Spinachcat on November 22, 2021, 05:49:40 PM
As I've said before, the path forward is segregation in the hobby. Everybody who wants to suck woke cock should enjoy their own space, far away from the rest of us.

Yes... Yes... Yes... I've been saying that for years too. I don't give a cup of cold piss what these woke fools do as long as it's away from me.

That said, to actually create a real schism, would take a concerted effort. Which most grognards don't seem willing to do, imo.

Hows that going to work? They just re-co-opt any new havens and oust you again because they know you will knuckle under their jackboots eventually rather than keep fighting the long war. And all they need are a few useful idiots in the haven to get a foothold and start spreading their mental disease again.

Well, I think Venger has the right idea.

Quote from: Omega on November 25, 2021, 06:18:13 AM

Quote from: HappyDaze on November 15, 2021, 11:56:21 PM
Any links to the details of the murders you've seen related to the indie comic con and convention art circuits?

So far as I know. No actual murders have occurred. But theres been one near shooting, and two poisoning attempts in the last 5-10 years I've heard of from friends that attend cons and one that keeps track of the larger moral outrage/SJW attacks. I do not track this stuff as it is depressing to see these creeps rise in power again. I had my fill of this back in the 90s iteration. And back then they would gloat over any "disapproved" artists death.

Do you have any details of the near-shooting & poisonings of gamer-related figures, or is this too just hearsay?

Living in Florida,  "near-shootings" are rather common in daily life.