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DCCRPG going Woke

Started by Bogmagog, November 10, 2021, 04:25:39 AM

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HappyDaze

#120
November 11, 2021, 02:13:24 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 11, 2021, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: Myrdin Potter on November 11, 2021, 09:20:37 AM
Both of my daughters play RPG and they both care about use of he exclusively.


Yeah, but who cares about what your kids think (beyond you).

Meh... I say.
It doesn't hurt to care. Try it some time.

jhkim

#121
November 11, 2021, 02:41:38 PM
Quote from: Zalman on November 11, 2021, 09:07:21 AM
You're referring to DCC's grandstanding right? If it's such a nothingburger, then why does DCC feel the need to soapbox it up?

Pretty obvious who's stirring the storm.

How much are DCC actually talking about it? When I go to the Goodman Games website, I can't see any mention of this issue. Apparently it was mentioned in the "Maw of the Mike" podcast (which I haven't listened to), but the topic isn't mentioned in the description of the podcast.


Quote from: Myrdin Potter on November 11, 2021, 09:20:37 AM
Both of my daughters play RPG and they both care about use of he exclusively. They understand that the older, accepted usage of he was meant to be gender neutral, but they don't agree that it is.

The local store I play in is about 30-40% younger women players.

It is quaint that people here are outraged about the change to they/them while insisting that people should not be upset about he/his.

Double quaint that they expect Goodman Games to not want to advertise that they understand and have adjusted.

Hi, Myrdin. The odd thing to me is that the original AD&D books that I grew up on understood that "he" wasn't generic. Gygax deliberately used "he or she" throughout the books to distinguish, which was progressive for its time. But most people today feel that "he or she" is cumbersome to constantly write or say, and the trend has instead been to use of singular "they". I find it to be easier to use and more natural than "he or she".

Rob Necronomicon

#122
November 11, 2021, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on November 11, 2021, 02:13:24 PM

It doesn't hurt to care. Try it some time.

It does'nt hurt to not give a shit about something so trivial...

Try it some time, you'll feel liberated. 

Attack-minded and dangerously so - W.E. Fairbairn.
youtube shit:www.youtube.com/channel/UCt1l7oq7EmlfLT6UEG8MLeg

Mishihari

#123
November 11, 2021, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: Myrdin Potter on November 11, 2021, 09:20:37 AM
It is quaint that people here are outraged about the change to they/them while insisting that people should not be upset about he/his.

The one is just a historical legacy, whilst the other is an attempt at deliberate manipulation.  People trying to manipulate me pisses me off.

DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay

#124
November 11, 2021, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on November 11, 2021, 02:13:24 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 11, 2021, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: Myrdin Potter on November 11, 2021, 09:20:37 AM
Both of my daughters play RPG and they both care about use of he exclusively.


Yeah, but who cares about what your kids think (beyond you).

Meh... I say.
It doesn't hurt to care. Try it some time.

The angriest incels around here don't want to feel or care, it is a defense mechanism that is the only thing that keeps their skullcap waterproof and intact. I'm just happy to know they are most likely never going to meaningfully interact with future generations to pass on the depravity they were likely burdened with by their own families.

I don't give a flying FUCK about half the shit that was important to my parents or grandparents and I'm certainly not going to blink twice when my kids ideals don't reflect my own opinions and beliefs.

Rob Necronomicon

#125
November 11, 2021, 02:57:47 PM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on November 11, 2021, 02:47:25 PM
most likely never going to meaningfully interact with future generations

Me too... I couldn't give a shit about them.

But while I'm alive I'm happy to laugh and never comply with all you woke dweebs with you childish baby shit.

When I'm dead and gone, feel free to whatever you want. But until then, you can all sod off.  ;D
Attack-minded and dangerously so - W.E. Fairbairn.
youtube shit:www.youtube.com/channel/UCt1l7oq7EmlfLT6UEG8MLeg

HappyDaze

#126
November 11, 2021, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 11, 2021, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on November 11, 2021, 02:13:24 PM

It doesn't hurt to care. Try it some time.

It does'nt hurt to not give a shit about something so trivial...

Try it some time, you'll feel liberated.
Oh, I already don't care about much of the nonsense that a certain crowd here take way too seriously, so if that what it takes to feel liberated, I'm good.

GeekyBugle

#127
November 11, 2021, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on November 11, 2021, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on November 11, 2021, 02:13:24 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 11, 2021, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: Myrdin Potter on November 11, 2021, 09:20:37 AM
Both of my daughters play RPG and they both care about use of he exclusively.


Yeah, but who cares about what your kids think (beyond you).

Meh... I say.
It doesn't hurt to care. Try it some time.

The angriest incels around here don't want to feel or care, it is a defense mechanism that is the only thing that keeps their skullcap waterproof and intact. I'm just happy to know they are most likely never going to meaningfully interact with future generations to pass on the depravity they were likely burdened with by their own families.

I don't give a flying FUCK about half the shit that was important to my parents or grandparents and I'm certainly not going to blink twice when my kids ideals don't reflect my own opinions and beliefs.

INCELs... Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

Who do you think you're hoodwinking? You don't have children and never will.

Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

#128
November 11, 2021, 03:07:37 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 11, 2021, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on November 11, 2021, 02:13:24 PM

It doesn't hurt to care. Try it some time.

It does'nt hurt to not give a shit about something so trivial...

Try it some time, you'll feel liberated.

Why should I care what a tiny portion of the population feel or think? Especially when they aren't my family or friends?

I do care, a lot, about the world I'm leaving for my son and his children, which is why I oppose the woketards at every turn.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Mishihari

#129
November 11, 2021, 03:11:15 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on November 11, 2021, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on November 11, 2021, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on November 11, 2021, 02:13:24 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on November 11, 2021, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: Myrdin Potter on November 11, 2021, 09:20:37 AM
Both of my daughters play RPG and they both care about use of he exclusively.


Yeah, but who cares about what your kids think (beyond you).

Meh... I say.
It doesn't hurt to care. Try it some time.

The angriest incels around here don't want to feel or care, it is a defense mechanism that is the only thing that keeps their skullcap waterproof and intact. I'm just happy to know they are most likely never going to meaningfully interact with future generations to pass on the depravity they were likely burdened with by their own families.

I don't give a flying FUCK about half the shit that was important to my parents or grandparents and I'm certainly not going to blink twice when my kids ideals don't reflect my own opinions and beliefs.

INCELs... Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

Who do you think you're hoodwinking? You don't have children and never will.



Good insight.  Any parent cares deeply that their children have good values.  He doesn't have a clue

Ruprecht

#130
November 11, 2021, 04:09:14 PM
It really depends upon how they re-write the sentences. With a little effort it isn't all that hard to remove he/she without using They. .
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

GeekyBugle

#131
November 11, 2021, 04:10:48 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on November 11, 2021, 04:09:14 PM
It really depends upon how they re-write the sentences. With a little effort it isn't all that hard to remove he/she without using They. .

The question is : Why should anyone HAVE TO do even that "little effort"?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

HappyDaze

#132
November 11, 2021, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on November 11, 2021, 04:09:14 PM
It really depends upon how they re-write the sentences. With a little effort it isn't all that hard to remove he/she without using They. .
All pronouns are optional, but things get clunky fast if the noun is just used over and over again.

HappyDaze

#133
November 11, 2021, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on November 11, 2021, 04:10:48 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on November 11, 2021, 04:09:14 PM
It really depends upon how they re-write the sentences. With a little effort it isn't all that hard to remove he/she without using They. .

The question is : Why should anyone HAVE TO do even that "little effort"?
Why is that the question? I don't think anyone believes that Goodman games is doing this against their will. They want to do this, and that's all that really matters. Now, you don't have to buy it if you don't like it, but asking why they have to do this is really the wrong question.

GeekyBugle

#134
November 11, 2021, 04:29:37 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on November 11, 2021, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on November 11, 2021, 04:10:48 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on November 11, 2021, 04:09:14 PM
It really depends upon how they re-write the sentences. With a little effort it isn't all that hard to remove he/she without using They. .

The question is : Why should anyone HAVE TO do even that "little effort"?
Why is that the question? I don't think anyone believes that Goodman games is doing this against their will. They want to do this, and that's all that really matters. Now, you don't have to buy it if you don't like it, but asking why they have to do this is really the wrong question.

That MIGHT be true of Gooperson games (I doubt it since when they start virtue signaling is to hide something). But the bigger picture necesitates that question answered.

So far the only "answers" provided have been "Muh Inclusivity!" and "Muh Representashun!". But never has it been proven that not doing so really stops anyone from joining a hobby.

If those "arguments" held any water you'd find that not a single straight white male would enjoy Wonder Woman, Black Panther, Shang Chi (the original good comics not the BS new ones or the movie), etc.

The same is true of TTRPGs, why is it that in HispanoAmerica the most popular game is vanilla D&D and not something like Maztica?

That is the underlying question that needs to be answered and so far it hasn't been.

Feel free to disagree, I can't force you to be right and I lack the time/interest to try and convince you of anything.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell
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