DCCRPG going Woke

RPGPundit · November 10, 2021, 07:32:19 PM

Quote from: PsyXypher on November 10, 2021, 11:00:03 AM
The idea that an OSR product would attempt to appeal to something directly opposed to their target market boggles my mind. Older been tend to be more conservative and they're usually the ones who play OSR. Unless I'm wrong in that regard, but I don't think I am.

That's like trying to market guns to Californians or pork to Muslims. Or beef to Hindus. Or Televisions to the Amish.

I could go on for a while but I think you get the point.

Or "Masculinity is Rape Culture" Feminism to people who buy Gillette shavers?

RPGPundit · November 10, 2021, 07:35:00 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on November 10, 2021, 12:21:35 PM
Quote from: PsyXypher on November 10, 2021, 11:00:03 AM
The idea that an OSR product would attempt to appeal to something directly opposed to their target market boggles my mind. Older been tend to be more conservative and they're usually the ones who play OSR. Unless I'm wrong in that regard, but I don't think I am.

That's like trying to market guns to Californians or pork to Muslims. Or beef to Hindus. Or Televisions to the Amish.

I could go on for a while but I think you get the point.
If OSR doesn't push towards newer players, it's current fan base will age/die out at some point.

The OSR gets new players all the time. The more ultra-left that Wizards and other big gaming companies get, the better it turns out for us.

Given that sooner or later the Left has already declared that anyone who doesn't vote for them is a White Supremacist, and will eventually have to say that about ever more people on their own side ("Anyone who doesn't support us in banning non-insect meat is a Nazi and a Domestic Terrorist!"), I'm not worried about the OSR maintaining its ranks. Your side is doing all the recruiting for us.

RPGPundit · November 10, 2021, 07:41:14 PM

Quote from: Jam The MF on November 10, 2021, 06:04:24 PM
I wonder if this will have any impact, on RPG Pundit's long running DCC campaign?

Nope. First of all, if this is really the only thing they're changing, I wouldn't care enough regardless.

But second, what you have to get about my Last Sun campaign is that the ONLY DCC product we use in it is really the DCC Corebook. That's it.

All the other stuff in it is coming mainly from my own World of the Last Sun and the Last Sun "RPGPundit Presents" issues, or from other OSR or old-school D&D sources.

SHARK · November 10, 2021, 07:53:50 PM

Greetings!

Yeah, the Insect Meat is on the way. The UN is going to make it so that everyone is forced to eat crunchy insect patties, instead of *meat*. Because, of course, that's what better for "the environment" and responding to "the climate crisis".

All the weak fucking Libtards are going to line the fuck up for that. Yes, good little slaves. Here's your Insect Patty ration for the week!

And remember, "You will own nothing and be happy!"

Fucking weak cucks, all of them.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Zalman · November 10, 2021, 08:42:42 PM

I mean, I'm all for insect meat. After feasting on crickets numerous times in the backcountry, I've often marveled at the idea of a "locust plague" causing famine!

I'm sure SHARK's players would agree.

Abraxus · November 10, 2021, 08:51:51 PM

Between being hesitant at the expensive sand sometimes hard to get funky dice. I'm no longer interested which is too bad. I'm done buying from SJW butt kissing rpg companies.

Funny enough my wife loves the look and appearance of the 5E boxed set that I cannot sell them lol

RIP Goodman games.

Svenhelgrim · November 10, 2021, 08:52:24 PM

Quote from: SHARK on November 10, 2021, 07:53:50 PM
Greetings!

Yeah, the Insect Meat is on the way. The UN is going to make it so that everyone is forced to eat crunchy insect patties, instead of *meat*. Because, of course, that's what better for "the environment" and responding to "the climate crisis".

All the weak fucking Libtards are going to line the fuck up for that. Yes, good little slaves. Here's your Insect Patty ration for the week!

And remember, "You will own nothing and be happy!"

Fucking weak cucks, all of them.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I think there are enough real Americans who can stand up to them (the UN). And while some members of our military might support a UN occupation, the ones who can actually fight, will not.

Also:

Happy Birthday Marine!

Ratman_tf · November 10, 2021, 09:01:30 PM

Quote from: trechriron on November 10, 2021, 05:45:33 PM
Another "tempest in a teapot". It's not going to fundamentally change how the game works.

I find throwing a fit against "wokeness" in response to what many of you decry as weak "cuck" "bend the knee" behavior as hilarious. So, they (see what I did there?) need to "man up" and push back against the libs, but instead they pushed back against you and decided "they" is an ok compromise. Now you are taking your ball and going home.

The hand-wringing over everything = racism, censorship is ok, and anyone who disagrees with me = nazi child molester -- has all been troubling to deal with. It seems like the outrage brigade rages as a default social stance. You wanna do that too?

Maybe the anti-woke crowd should stop hand-wringing over every change that even stinks of "wokeness", you know, to demonstrate your higher emotional maturity?

You know why people push back against such minor "tempest in a teapot" changes? Because it's the same kind of minor changes that give the whackadoodle activists a foot in the door.

HappyDaze · November 10, 2021, 09:14:11 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on November 10, 2021, 07:35:00 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on November 10, 2021, 12:21:35 PM
Quote from: PsyXypher on November 10, 2021, 11:00:03 AM
The idea that an OSR product would attempt to appeal to something directly opposed to their target market boggles my mind. Older been tend to be more conservative and they're usually the ones who play OSR. Unless I'm wrong in that regard, but I don't think I am.

That's like trying to market guns to Californians or pork to Muslims. Or beef to Hindus. Or Televisions to the Amish.

I could go on for a while but I think you get the point.
If OSR doesn't push towards newer players, it's current fan base will age/die out at some point.

The OSR gets new players all the time. The more ultra-left that Wizards and other big gaming companies get, the better it turns out for us.

Given that sooner or later the Left has already declared that anyone who doesn't vote for them is a White Supremacist, and will eventually have to say that about ever more people on their own side ("Anyone who doesn't support us in banning non-insect meat is a Nazi and a Domestic Terrorist!"), I'm not worried about the OSR maintaining its ranks. Your side is doing all the recruiting for us.

My side?

HappyDaze · November 10, 2021, 09:16:34 PM

Quote from: Abraxus on November 10, 2021, 08:51:51 PM
Between being hesitant at the expensive sand sometimes hard to get funky dice. I'm no longer interested which is too bad. I'm done buying from SJW butt kissing rpg companies.

Funny enough my wife loves the look and appearance of the 5E boxed set that I cannot sell them lol

RIP Goodman games.

Glad to hear the wedding happened. Best wishes IRL.

FelixGamingX1 · November 10, 2021, 09:27:04 PM

So, I hope this doesn't come as a surprise. The hobby been dying down... slowly... but surely. Best way to get new players quick, is to do dumb cheap sales with hopes of attracting hesitant buyers. Once they have something to compare to, they'll probably pick the healthier alternative.

Abraxus · November 10, 2021, 11:04:41 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on November 10, 2021, 09:16:34 PM
Quote from: Abraxus on November 10, 2021, 08:51:51 PM
Between being hesitant at the expensive sand sometimes hard to get funky dice. I'm no longer interested which is too bad. I'm done buying from SJW butt kissing rpg companies.

Funny enough my wife loves the look and appearance of the 5E boxed set that I cannot sell them lol

RIP Goodman games.
Glad to hear the wedding happened. Best wishes IRL.

Hey HD thanks besides the Priest being drunk and mostly incoherent during the ceremony everything else was perfect.

Ratman_tf · November 11, 2021, 12:02:05 AM

Quote from: Abraxus on November 10, 2021, 08:51:51 PM
Between being hesitant at the expensive sand sometimes hard to get funky dice.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=dcc+dice+set&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

Melan · November 11, 2021, 04:29:01 AM

Quote from: FingerRod on November 10, 2021, 03:39:37 PMIf you are getting pulled into the semantics of how they is singular, plural, or whatever you are being pulled away from the real conversation.

Precisely. This is a matter of basic truths, and you need very elaborate mental structures to deny fundamental reality. People have to jump through multiple hoops before adopting the weirdo speak that has spilled out of obscure social studies departments, and on a social level, it takes a lot of reinforcement/browbeating/stigmatisation to get it accepted on a wide basis.

The whole pronoun debacle is a distraction. If it wasn't pronouns, it would be the creepy habit of referring to people as "bodies", or any other sly attempts at linguistic social engineering. It can be endlessly debated, but these debates are only going to distract us from issues of truth and falsehood. And those do matter!

Ghostmaker · November 11, 2021, 08:07:06 AM

Reminded of a certain meme:

French: "This chair is feminine! 'La Chaise'!"

German: "This chair is masculine! 'Der Stuhl'!"

English: "This chair is a fucking object, I don't see a skirt or a pair of trousers anywhere on its cold hard surface, you people are fucking insane."

Japanese: "If you don't say chair exactly right, you'll say testicles instead."