Quote from: KieroThere's the deceptive thing about the print run selling out. It's sold out into the distribution channels, to retailers. Yet in Britain at least there's plenty of copies sitting on shelves, and people don't seem to be struggling to get it from Amazon.

You talking about 40K or WFRP 2E ? (I was talking about WFRP 2E products)

Regards,
David R

Quote from: One Horse TownHuh? Why do you like 40k then?

It's becoming rather evident that you could write what you do like on the back of a stamp. Bah, humbug.  :pundit:

Abnett's pulp-in-40k primarily. His books are the only BL (and by extension GW) product I buy.


David R: I was talking about 40KRP, that was floating around in the thread and I happened to pick your comment out.

Quote from: David Rblakkie - I guess this means I won't be running Nicotine Girls for you anytime soon

I'll try anything for one session.  Hey, I tried WHFRP for a session. I might have even had fun with it if I hadn't been looking at a future of playing the game week after week.

P.S. I'd probably write down a really epic Dreams. A chance to be epic by the end of the session! :keke:

Quote from: KieroAbnett's pulp-in-40k primarily. His books are the only BL (and by extension GW) product I buy.


David R: I was talking about 40KRP, that was floating around in the thread and I happened to pick your comment out.

So, basically you're basing your entire opinion of the bloody universe  and what it "should" be on one bloody book series?

Still a fucking idiot as always, I see.

Quote from: J ArcaneSo, basically you're basing your entire opinion of the bloody universe  and what it "should" be on one bloody book series?

Still a fucking idiot as always, I see.

Well, fuckwit, given almost nothing else actually deals with the subject matter of the Inquisition, then it's not unreasonable. Most of it is shitty Space Marine fanwank.

And it's two series, not one.

Quote from: J ArcaneSo, basically you're basing your entire opinion of the bloody universe  and what it "should" be on one bloody book series?

Still a fucking idiot as always, I see.

Eh, I can top that.  I base my entire opinion of the 40K universe and what it "should" on a single book: the original Rogue Trader hardback.

There's nobody I can't out-stupid if I set my mind to it.

Quote from: blakkieI'll try anything for one session.  Hey, I tried WHFRP for a session. I might have even had fun with it if I hadn't been looking at a future of playing the game week after week.

This is exactly the attitude of my current crew :cheers:

Edit: jrients, yeah the original Rogue Trader hardcover, that's 40K to me.

Regards,
David R

Quote from: jrientsEh, I can top that.  I base my entire opinion of the 40K universe and what it "should" on a single book: the original Rogue Trader hardback.

There's nobody I can't out-stupid if I set my mind to it.

You, sir, are my kind of stupid.  :cool:


TGA

Hasn't there been ENOUGH Inquisition subject matter published by GW in the 20 years of Warhammer 40,000?

Dan Abnett is not the end-all be-all of Warhammer fiction.  In fact I've only heard his name in the last 10 years or so.

Dark Heresy is obviously not the game for you if you think this way.  Like Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, they targeted the game at people who are aware of and play the battle games and who are wanting to set a roleplaying game in that universe - not for roleplayers in general.  I think it's this issue that is the seed of the dissatisfaction most of you seem to be expressing.

I also enjoy the fact that some of you seem to think you have a superb grip on the background from a recent spattering of books from a single prolific author.  You're an idiot.

In the end I think you'd get more out of Dark Heresy if you were already into 40k, period.  Yeah, it lacks some depth as far as background goes, but if you have a chest full of old material from 15+ years of GW then it's not really an issue for you - you don't even notice it and you wonder why the book is so goddamned big in the first place.  I know what a damn heavy bolter is already, I know what the Ordos are and what they do and how they go about it.  If you don't and need clarification or more background information (the Calixis Sector?  I don't even use this chapter - my gaming groups' very own Mardannon Sector is the setting instead.)

There's literally TONS of material on the Inquisition, but get a little creativity and MAKE SOMETHING UP!  The galaxy is huge and teeming with thousands of Inquisitors who may or may not be aware of one another and each other's plots.  Try your imagination, or go back to your D&D table.

Quote from: jrientsEh, I can top that.  I base my entire opinion of the 40K universe and what it "should" on a single book: the original Rogue Trader hardback.

There's nobody I can't out-stupid if I set my mind to it.

Nah.  Rogue Trader gives a far better sense of the scope of the 40k universe than all this Inquisition wank.

Quote from: David R:eek:...so it's a class thing

I think there is something to the emotional/class tourism argument.  Seriously, do you think lower-income girls would want to play a game about lower-income girls looking for happiness (Nicotine Girls) or is the idea of playing such characters more likely to appeal to middle and upper-class guys for whom such characters might actually seem a bit unusual if not exotic?

I think the fact that this thread has devolved into a comparison of Nicotine Girls tells me that something about you I didn't want to know and definitively marks you as no fans of 40k by any stretch of the imagination - therefore you have no right to Dark Heresy, and you should burn your copy immediately.

Quote from: BlackhandI think the fact that this thread has devolved into a comparison of Nicotine Girls tells me that something about you I didn't want to know and definitively marks you as no fans of 40k by any stretch of the imagination - therefore you have no right to Dark Heresy, and you should burn your copy immediately.

My last comment was specifically based on the comment I was replying to and not the broader discussion about what the real 40K is.

Me, personally?  I'm not a huge fan of 40K and never claimed to be.  I've been pretty clear about the fact that my primary interest is in using Dark Heresy to run a Necromunda role-playing game, which is the part of the 40K Universe that I am interested in.

So, if I should burn my copy of Dark Heresy, do you think I should I burn my copy of Rogue Trader, too?  I must have missed the "For True Fans Only" restriction on purchasing them.

You should donate your copy of Rogue Trader to the first homeless person you see tomorrow.

Why does everyone bring that up?  It's like it's street cred for 40k but in reality its not.  It's old edition stuff and everyone waxes nostalgic, but that was 20 years ago and 40k has progressed a lot more.

If you cite Rogue Trader as your 'flavor' of 40k then you probably bought it 20 years ago, gamed once with it and decided 40k sucked.

However you can cite it as 'true' 40k when these posts come up and everyone will think you know something they don't, when in fact Rogue Trader doesn't have anything in it that isn't reprinted elsewhere.  Or phased out of continuity.

Quote from: Blackhand- therefore you have no right to Dark Heresy, and you should burn your copy immediately.

Unfortunately our group contains one ex-WH-weekender and one ex-full-out-basement-full-of-miniatures-WH-fan.  Ergo I have an interest in following the thread even though I don't play WH minis and wouldn't recognize a heavy bolter if it ran through my front door.

P.S. The path of thought seems pretty clear: WH, WHFRP, shoveling shit, Nicotine Girls. :deflated:  Dick.