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Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: Lawbag on August 01, 2011, 08:40:32 AM
Been looking through the sticky links and failing. Also done a fair bit of Googling but have come up blank as well.
 
Im looking for some Dark Ages era maps of Europe, Britain and the Middle East.
 
I know Storyteller Secrets for Vampire Dark Ages came with a map of europe, but I bought it off eBay and it arrived map-less.
 
Any links or suggestions for decent sized images please....
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: FrankTrollman on August 01, 2011, 09:33:42 AM
Assuming you're talking about the original setting, which is in 1197, you want to find a map of the Old World around 1200 CE, that can be found right here (http://www.worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_1200ad.jpg).

The only really important event that differentiates 1197 and 1200 from a map standpoint is some wars involving Bulgaria. If you're setting things in Western Europe or the Med, you do not have to care.

-Frank
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: Premier on August 01, 2011, 11:39:00 AM
Just for clarification: are you looking for reproductions of maps which were drawn in the Dark Ages, or for modern-style maps depicting Europe as it was in the Dark Ages?
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: Cranewings on August 01, 2011, 12:33:28 PM
I'm pretty sure people in dark age europe didn't really do maps. They traveled by directions - lists of places to visit or see while on the road to let you know you are on the right path. There wasn't much in the way of government funded cartographers. That's part of what made the dark ages, dark.
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: Claudius on August 01, 2011, 04:04:39 PM
Quote from: Cranewings;471125
I'm pretty sure people in dark age europe didn't really do maps.

You would be wrong. Example 1 (http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/EMwebpages/203.html), example 2 (http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/EMwebpages/203A.html).

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They traveled by directions - lists of places to visit or see while on the road to let you know you are on the right path. There wasn't much in the way of government funded cartographers. That's part of what made the dark ages, dark.

The so called "Dark Ages" weren't so dark as some people like to think. Nor was the Renaissance so enlightened.
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: Lawbag on August 01, 2011, 05:19:39 PM
To clarify, Im looking for playable usable maps that are functional in play rather than purely for decoration.
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: Lawbag on August 01, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
Whilst hunting through my old rpg files, I came across a European map from the year 1000ad. It had the name Euratlas, which I Googled, and uncovered this little website.

http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/index.html

Ill double post on the Sticky RPG links, so delete/move as necessary.

The website has a map of Europe every 100 years, and is perfect for what Im looking for, adequate enough anyhow.
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: Cranewings on August 01, 2011, 05:58:40 PM
Quote from: Claudius;471176
You would be wrong. Example 1 (http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/EMwebpages/203.html), example 2 (http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/EMwebpages/203A.html).


The so called "Dark Ages" weren't so dark as some people like to think. Nor was the Renaissance so enlightened.


I've read aliens made the first one. (;
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: greylond on August 01, 2011, 06:06:21 PM
Years ago I found a book of maps in the VCU(Virginia Commonwealth University) Library with period maps of ALL towns/villages of England and Wales. Don't remember the book but a bit of research might turn it up. There are tax/census maps out there.
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: The Traveller on August 01, 2011, 06:07:29 PM
Ars Magica had a few good ones.
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: Claudius on August 02, 2011, 07:35:26 AM
Quote from: Cranewings;471205
I've read aliens made the first one. (;

That's an idea for a campaign!
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: jgants on August 02, 2011, 02:04:28 PM
Quote from: Lawbag;471199
Whilst hunting through my old rpg files, I came across a European map from the year 1000ad. It had the name Euratlas, which I Googled, and uncovered this little website.

http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/index.html

Ill double post on the Sticky RPG links, so delete/move as necessary.

The website has a map of Europe every 100 years, and is perfect for what Im looking for, adequate enough anyhow.


Yep, I discovered that one years ago myself.  Very cool!

I wish there were more resources like this.
Title: Dark Ages Map(s)
Post by: jibbajibba on August 02, 2011, 02:31:56 PM
Quote from: Lawbag;471199
Whilst hunting through my old rpg files, I came across a European map from the year 1000ad. It had the name Euratlas, which I Googled, and uncovered this little website.

http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/index.html

Ill double post on the Sticky RPG links, so delete/move as necessary.

The website has a map of Europe every 100 years, and is perfect for what Im looking for, adequate enough anyhow.


Great map resource, but were they drawn by a Frenchman?

Look at the resource for Europe in 1200 then look at this map of the same period ...http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/maps/1174angev.jpg Notice anything different about the size and shape of France ?

:D