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Daniel D Zorro cancelled

Started by GeekyBugle, July 12, 2022, 12:53:11 PM

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Steven Mitchell

In my less charitable moments, I'm a Kantian through and through:  People ought to be treated as if the rules they imply by their actions were, in fact, the rules for them.

SJW's eating their own is about the only productive thing they do with their lives.  We really shouldn't try to take that from them. :D

Habitual Gamer

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Quote from: Dropbear on July 13, 2022, 08:40:11 AM
Jesus, I hardly see where his description of Gnomes is racism, unless you're a Gnome-lover maybe...

Somebody got upset that some people claimed that Gnomes were the "byproducts" of the worst of Elvish and Dwarvish desires and saw it as a quasi-personal attack (since they identify as biracial).  Note, Gnomes being half-anythings isn't presented as a setting fact, just a slur passed around in setting (EDIT: correction.  I'm not sure if the book is talking to me the reader or a character inside the setting.  Either way, I'm a mentally healthy and secure adult, so I don't care what the mean old game book says about fantasy creatures).  Because folks in Zweihander (and the WFRP setting Fox cribbed off of) actually are pretty horrible and awful by (gasp!) intentional design!  Shiny happy tieflings holding hands WarhammerFRP is not.  But we're also talking about the same crowd who think orcs and drow are synonymous with black people for some reason (and to be fair, African Americans have a long history of living underground and using magical powers in service to their demon spider goddess).

And as a friendly reminder: Daniel Fox's wife got pregnant by another man because he needed to see how somebody else did it first.

MeganovaStella

Quote from: Habitual Gamer on July 13, 2022, 02:35:09 PM
Quote from: Dropbear on July 13, 2022, 08:40:11 AM
Jesus, I hardly see where his description of Gnomes is racism, unless you're a Gnome-lover maybe...

And as a friendly reminder: Daniel Fox's wife got pregnant by another man because he needed to see how somebody else did it first.

He's a cuck? What the fuck

King Tyranno

This man killed The Trove. One of the best places for finding obscure and out of print old RPG products. Something about copyright infringement. Which is rich coming from the guy who made a derivative of Warhammer Fantasy Role Playing. So he can go take a long walk off a short pier as far as I'm concerned.

Hzilong

Quote from: King Tyranno on July 14, 2022, 05:43:49 AM
This man killed The Trove. One of the best places for finding obscure and out of print old RPG products. Something about copyright infringement. Which is rich coming from the guy who made a derivative of Warhammer Fantasy Role Playing. So he can go take a long walk off a short pier as far as I'm concerned.

That's where I remember his name from. Yeah, f this guy.
Resident lurking Chinaman

THE_Leopold

Quote from: King Tyranno on July 14, 2022, 05:43:49 AM
This man killed The Trove. One of the best places for finding obscure and out of print old RPG products. Something about copyright infringement. Which is rich coming from the guy who made a derivative of Warhammer Fantasy Role Playing. So he can go take a long walk off a short pier as far as I'm concerned.

His name carries as much hatred as Voldemort and when he or his products mentioned a great roil goes through the group...
NKL4Lyfe

RebelSky

Quote from: drayakir on July 12, 2022, 03:18:31 PM
Quote from: Reckall on July 12, 2022, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: drayakir on July 12, 2022, 01:24:04 PM
Good. Fuck Daniel Fox. Do you think I should send him pirated copies of Zweihander?

That's the RPG about male German models, right?

It's the ripoff of WHFRP where he took the names out of everything.

Much like how every retroclone did this with D&D and is the entire business model of the OSR.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: King Tyranno on July 14, 2022, 05:43:49 AM
This man killed The Trove. One of the best places for finding obscure and out of print old RPG products. Something about copyright infringement. Which is rich coming from the guy who made a derivative of Warhammer Fantasy Role Playing. So he can go take a long walk off a short pier as far as I'm concerned.
What bothered me about his takedown of the Trove was how obnoxious he was. Instead of a simple press release, he did a little sack dance crowing about how he'd owned 'le pirates'.

Now, yes, the Trove was a pirate haven. But as you noted, it was also one of the only places to locate out of print and obscure RPGs.

So yeah, Zorro can get fucked. I hope everyone torrents his crap from now till the Internet collapses.

Tubesock Army

What Fox has done with Zweihander is not significantly different from OSE, Swords & Wizardry or any number of retroclones out there.

Also, there are still plenty of places to get pirated stuff out there, and The Trove was never the best, nor the most comprehensive. Its download speed was shit.

MeganovaStella

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 14, 2022, 09:33:53 AM
What Fox has done with Zweihander is not significantly different from OSE, Swords & Wizardry or any number of retroclones out there.

Also, there are still plenty of places to get pirated stuff out there, and The Trove was never the best, nor the most comprehensive. Its download speed was shit.

Do you get paid for acting like a contrarian ass on this site's threads? I think you should be, you do a great job.

THE_Leopold

Quote from: MeganovaStella on July 14, 2022, 09:41:36 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 14, 2022, 09:33:53 AM
What Fox has done with Zweihander is not significantly different from OSE, Swords & Wizardry or any number of retroclones out there.

Also, there are still plenty of places to get pirated stuff out there, and The Trove was never the best, nor the most comprehensive. Its download speed was shit.

Do you get paid for acting like a contrarian ass on this site's threads? I think you should be, you do a great job.

He's filling in for Battlemaster now that he was banned.
NKL4Lyfe

Ghostmaker

Quote from: MeganovaStella on July 14, 2022, 09:41:36 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 14, 2022, 09:33:53 AM
What Fox has done with Zweihander is not significantly different from OSE, Swords & Wizardry or any number of retroclones out there.

Also, there are still plenty of places to get pirated stuff out there, and The Trove was never the best, nor the most comprehensive. Its download speed was shit.

Do you get paid for acting like a contrarian ass on this site's threads? I think you should be, you do a great job.
He's hoping TBP-senpai notices him.

Tubesock Army

Quote from: MeganovaStella on July 14, 2022, 09:41:36 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 14, 2022, 09:33:53 AM
What Fox has done with Zweihander is not significantly different from OSE, Swords & Wizardry or any number of retroclones out there.

Also, there are still plenty of places to get pirated stuff out there, and The Trove was never the best, nor the most comprehensive. Its download speed was shit.

Do you get paid for acting like a contrarian ass on this site's threads? I think you should be, you do a great job.

Nice ad hominem, next time you can just admit that you can't refute the argument. It'd be more honest.

VengerSatanis

Quote from: Reckall on July 12, 2022, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: drayakir on July 12, 2022, 01:24:04 PM
Good. Fuck Daniel Fox. Do you think I should send him pirated copies of Zweihander?

That's the RPG about male German models, right?

I would literally play a Zoolander pun RPG a thousand times more than the Warhammer knockoff omnibus by Daniel Fox.

King Tyranno

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 14, 2022, 09:33:53 AM
What Fox has done with Zweihander is not significantly different from OSE, Swords & Wizardry or any number of retroclones out there.

Also, there are still plenty of places to get pirated stuff out there, and The Trove was never the best, nor the most comprehensive. Its download speed was shit.

The problem isn't that he made a rip off of Warhammer, Warhammer itself is very derivative of multiple sources. The problem is that he made a rip off of Warhammer and then with no self awareness of his own hypocrisy whatsoever directly inconvenienced many people including myself for his own aggrandizement whilst claiming he was defending his and other author's copyright. Whilst all he ever did was make a derivative of someone else's work and then sell it He's an SJW who like all SJWs won't live by the rules he sets out and bullies people for not following. Most OSR authors don't do that. Because they know the score and they know how tenuous their position is legally if they poke the bear.