Quote from: Abraxus on March 21, 2024, 04:11:44 PM
While I agree with Pundit on the topic I need to ask if he is bored or just in the mood to insert clickbait on the forum.

We already have on thread on the topic but no here is more just with a different title.

What the next topic " Matt Mercer refuses to eat junk food must be an Foodie oh my".

Damn Pundit your getting more stale then an open beer left open in an hot sun for a week. Worse an broken record.

pretty sure he makes a thread for all of his videos.

Daggerheart doesn't have an identity disorder.  It's a story game, it's the kind of games Critical Roll likes.  It knows exactly who it is.

Luckily there are plenty of actual real TTRPGs out there for those of us who hate storygames.

Quote from: Zenoguy3 on March 21, 2024, 06:33:38 PM

Quote from: Abraxus on March 21, 2024, 04:11:44 PM
While I agree with Pundit on the topic I need to ask if he is bored or just in the mood to insert clickbait on the forum.

We already have on thread on the topic but no here is more just with a different title.

What the next topic " Matt Mercer refuses to eat junk food must be an Foodie oh my".

Damn Pundit your getting more stale then an open beer left open in an hot sun for a week. Worse an broken record.

pretty sure he makes a thread for all of his videos.

Yup, exactly

Quote from: GhostNinja on March 21, 2024, 07:49:56 PM
Daggerheart doesn't have an identity disorder.  It's a story game, it's the kind of games Critical Roll likes.  It knows exactly who it is.

Luckily there are plenty of actual real TTRPGs out there for those of us who hate storygames.

It's kind of a storygame.  It uses storygame language.  It's also too complicated and has too many subsystems to really be a storygame.  It's like it is trying to appeal to both the D&D crowd and the storygamer crowd at the same time and the two things are fighting over what the game will be.

Daggerheart is to Critical Role what Hackmaster is to Knights of the Dinner Table... mostly a vehicle for the show/comic to tell stories around and secondarily as merch to sell fans.

The main difference is CR takes itself seriously, while KotDT knows it's a comedy and that ridiculous mechanics leading to ridiculous situations is their bread & butter.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan on March 21, 2024, 01:36:13 AM
Still giddy over the fact you now share the same views on incoherent game design as Ron Edwards.

The design isnt so much incoherent as I suspect they are trying to stealth in a storygamer system and failing their stealth roll. They put in just enough game mechanics to fool the rubes.

Perhaps we should just recognize; that a certain percentage of their fan base, has little interest in playing authentic D&D mechanics.  They just want to emulate what they see on Critical Role.  Daggerheart is emulating an experience; not a ruleset, or mechanics.

Greetings!

Hackmaster was awesome!

I love Knights of the Dinner Table. NON-STOP HILARITY!!!

Who wouldn't want to play in a game like that, right? Old School D&D turned up to 11. *Laughing*

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Man at Arms on March 26, 2024, 01:14:26 AM
Perhaps we should just recognize; that a certain percentage of their fan base, has little interest in playing authentic D&D mechanics.  They just want to emulate what they see on Critical Role.  Daggerheart is emulating an experience; not a ruleset, or mechanics.

Except as I point out on the video, I don't think it will do that very well at all.

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 26, 2024, 06:28:01 AM
Except as I point out on the video, I don't think it will do that very well at all.

I think the entire implication is dishonest.  These guys have gone through multiple systems (didn't they start with Pathfinder) and always deliver a great show.  The system isn't what gets you there, it's everyone having "make a good experience for the viewer" on their mind, and of course, they are all professionals.

Normal play is "make a good experience for yourself and those at the table with you", which is a completely unrelated goal.  Most tables don't even have "viewers", and aren't making a show.  It's the difference between dancing with your chick or being a professional dancer at some concert, and the strong implication that these story-ish games will help you have something like what you see on youtube is never gonna happen, and at some level, they know that.

Quote from: Venka on March 26, 2024, 11:04:20 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 26, 2024, 06:28:01 AM
Except as I point out on the video, I don't think it will do that very well at all.

I think the entire implication is dishonest.  These guys have gone through multiple systems (didn't they start with Pathfinder) and always deliver a great show.  The system isn't what gets you there, it's everyone having "make a good experience for the viewer" on their mind, and of course, they are all professionals.

Normal play is "make a good experience for yourself and those at the table with you", which is a completely unrelated goal.  Most tables don't even have "viewers", and aren't making a show.  It's the difference between dancing with your chick or being a professional dancer at some concert, and the strong implication that these story-ish games will help you have something like what you see on youtube is never gonna happen, and at some level, they know that.

Sure, Matt.

I, eh, mean Venka.

Quote from: Brad on March 21, 2024, 03:31:27 PM
My problem with the video is Pundit badmouths FATAL, which is imminently playable, and you know exactly why you are playing it.

Indeed. If you can't find a way to incorporate the Anal Circumference table into your games you're playing RPGs completely wrong and there's no hope for you. 

Quote from: King Tyranno on March 29, 2024, 04:16:22 PM
Indeed. If you can't find a way to incorporate the Anal Circumference table into your games you're playing RPGs completely wrong and there's no hope for you.

You mean Anal Circumference Potential, and Anal Depth Potential. There's also the Ripped Orifice explanation, with a chance of death.

As I said, very playable.

As a younger person with an interest in trpgs, Critical Role and its fanbase is everywhere. I think that part of the reason that it may fail is the sort of people that make up the fandom are the same people who got angry and called the Hadozee monkey people racist but would play as a frog person. So playing as a furry is a-ok as long as it isn't a primate.

I don't have a game store in my area, and I'm going to university, so I'm afraid that I might end up in a group of critical role fanboys and fangirls and fans of other genders who want to reenact their favorite moments from the latest Critical Role campaign with a whole lot less budget and even less talent.  The cringe will kill me.

Quote from: Venka on March 26, 2024, 11:04:20 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 26, 2024, 06:28:01 AM
Except as I point out on the video, I don't think it will do that very well at all.

I think the entire implication is dishonest.  These guys have gone through multiple systems (didn't they start with Pathfinder) and always deliver a great show.  The system isn't what gets you there, it's everyone having "make a good experience for the viewer" on their mind, and of course, they are all professionals.

Normal play is "make a good experience for yourself and those at the table with you", which is a completely unrelated goal.  Most tables don't even have "viewers", and aren't making a show.  It's the difference between dancing with your chick or being a professional dancer at some concert, and the strong implication that these story-ish games will help you have something like what you see on youtube is never gonna happen, and at some level, they know that.

Critical role is the Friends version of an RPG session: dumbed down.

Also Matt Mercer is a talentless hack. He had a meltdown recently when the group essentially went off script and didn't want to go on his railroad.

I'm not surprised that Daggerheart is some story-game nonsense. God forbit he actually had some RULES. He'd look at AD&D 1st ed and his brain would explode because he couldn't handle it.

I go as far to say I'm a better DM than Matt. Then again, he sets the bar so low, how could any not be?