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Criticisms of 5e

Started by tenbones, August 11, 2014, 12:58:18 PM

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Will

#30
August 11, 2014, 04:40:47 PM
Sacrosanct:
Or would it really kill them to make it just 2d6?

Being all futsy fancy with dice annoys me.
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Blacky the Blackball

#31
August 11, 2014, 05:04:22 PM
Quote from: stuffis;778524Do your players bother reading the full rules, then?

Never. Unless they're also going to be DMing the game themselves, of course.
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Marleycat

#32
August 11, 2014, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: Blacky the Blackball;778553Never. Unless they're also going to be DMing the game themselves, of course.

I'll read up about the classes I like but that other stuff is for the DM. Let someone else be the rules lawyer.
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elfandghost

#33
August 11, 2014, 05:25:52 PM
No compliants here! I like the way they didn't include Dragonborn, Warlocks or Tieflings - if you see what I mean.
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Endless Flight

#34
August 11, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the Armor rules and the Dex modifier bit. I've tried to rationalize it as well as I can but it's still bugging me.

Marleycat

#35
August 11, 2014, 05:38:36 PM
Quote from: Endless Flight;778565I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the Armor rules and the Dex modifier bit. I've tried to rationalize it as well as I can but it's still bugging me.

Meh, they just going with armor as DR really. Wear heavy armour? Get hit but mostly harmlessly and have the same armour protection as a person in half plate with a superior DEX while being specifically trained in that type of armor to world class level. Not very confusing for a game that isn't granular about most things.
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Endless Flight

#36
August 11, 2014, 05:42:07 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;778574Meh, they just going with armor as DR really. Wear heavy armour? Get hit but mostly harmlessly and have the same armour protection as a person in half plate with a superior DEX while being specifically trained in that type of armor to world class level. Not very confusing for a game that isn't granular about most things.

It's not confusing to me, I just don't really understand why they did it. DR is fine but every time I've seen it used it's in conjunction with defense and dexterity being used. Personally, I like Defense/DR better than Armor Class.

Marleycat

#37
August 11, 2014, 06:21:28 PM
Quote from: Endless Flight;778578It's not confusing to me, I just don't really understand why they did it. DR is fine but every time I've seen it used it's in conjunction with defense and dexterity being used. Personally, I like Defense/DR better than Armor Class.

It is a bit odd I guess but I can rationalize it so it's fine by me.
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tenbones

#38
August 11, 2014, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;778609It is a bit odd I guess but I can rationalize it so it's fine by me.

Same here. I'm enjoying what I have now. But before I start full-blown redoing things, I'm going to wait for the DMG. Otherwise I run the risk of Fantasy Crafting the shit out of 5e...

Marleycat

#39
August 11, 2014, 06:39:29 PM
Quote from: tenbones;778621Same here. I'm enjoying what I have now. But before I start full-blown redoing things, I'm going to wait for the DMG. Otherwise I run the risk of Fantasy Crafting the shit out of 5e...

That's what I had the impression of in your prior posts.:)
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Endless Flight

#40
August 11, 2014, 06:47:11 PM
Fantasy Craft is cool to read, but aye yai yai, is it dense.

Gold Roger

#41
August 11, 2014, 07:43:25 PM
I don't like the race design.

I don't like some features, like proficiencies, that are cultural elements enforced on all of a certain race. I don't like the use of subraces in the very basic version of the rules. I don't like that they used the 4ed version of the tiefling. And I don't like either version of the human features.

I hope to be able to fix this. I already saw a homebrewed planescape Tiefling that looked perfectly balanced.


Other than that, I'm happy so far.

There could be more backgrounds, but I've already got about 20 homebrewed almost ready to go, so that's not an issue.

Will

#42
August 11, 2014, 08:34:24 PM
It seems weird, given that they did the whole Backgrounds thing, that they kept with the whole 'all elves use longswords' stuff.

If I had been involved, I probably would have forked it over to Cultural Affinity as a background-like extra widget. It's kind of annoying to have to do that myself.
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LibraryLass

#43
August 11, 2014, 09:23:17 PM
Quote from: Haffrung;778465Criticisms:

I don't like the selection of backgrounds on offer. While each is well-developed, there aren't many of them and they're not to my taste. Where's the explorer, outlaw, or tomb robber? They're too heavy on sophisticated social niches, and not enough on gritty roles.

Scholar or Outlander, Criminal, Scholar or Criminal.

QuoteCleric domains don't include darkness or death. So not only is WotC presuming good PCs, but I don't even have the means to create an evil cleric NPC.

DMG

QuoteThere's simply too much for me to explain verbally at the table, and most of my group does not buy or read rulebooks. WotC desperately needs to put out a quick start or summary.

You mean like this one?
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Quote from: noismsI get depressed, suicidal and aggressive when nerds start comparing penis sizes via the medium of how much they know about swords.

Quote from: Larsdangly;786974An encounter with a weird and potentially life threatening monster is not game wrecking. It is the game.

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Just Another Snake Cult

#44
August 11, 2014, 10:38:00 PM
Overall I'm really happy with it. The only thing that makes me nervous is the obscene HP inflation which will make it harder for me to use the shelf-full of three-ring binders full of shit I've written for my campaign over the past 25 years (Most of it using Moldvay Basic, BECMI, and/or Labyrinth Lord AEC). Do I just double the monster HP? Judge it monster by monster?
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