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Coyote and Crow made sure to shame white people, now has regrets

Started by wmarshal, August 04, 2022, 10:38:06 PM

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oggsmash

#60
August 06, 2022, 07:14:15 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 06, 2022, 12:07:30 AM
Quote from: BronzeDragon on August 05, 2022, 08:29:04 PM
I think it's missing the point a little bit to call this a failure.

His KS did over a million dollars, so that's his sales floor. Do we have anyone here that would be able to estimate the production costs (the books seem to be in full color, pretty much something like industry standard quality in terms of paper, etc.)?

It's possible this guy has already walked away with a quarter of a million dollars just from the KS, and then further sales would be the cherry, rather than the sundae itself.

The tone of his post does seem a bit on the desperate side of cringe, so maybe the production costs were very high and the KS profits are way smaller than they appear to be...

Or he pissed the KS money away on office furniture and catering.

  Which happens ALOT both with KS money and new venture capital money in lots of businesses.  I think a million GROSS is a neat number.  Anyone who has been in business for themselves knows gross sales and revenue are bragging numbers and that is it.  All that matters is NET.

rytrasmi

#61
August 06, 2022, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: Visitor Q on August 06, 2022, 02:46:27 AM
Finally check out the Intern (Director) job application. Raises a lot of exploitation red flags to me...

https://coyoteandcrow.net/2021/05/09/coyote-crow-creative-opportunities/
That's nuts.

Who would hire an outsider as an intern to eventually run the company? Even at face value it's bonkers. 
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DocJones

#62
August 06, 2022, 08:53:30 AM
No wampum for Conner.

Effete

#63
August 06, 2022, 08:57:41 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on August 06, 2022, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: Visitor Q on August 06, 2022, 02:46:27 AM
Finally check out the Intern (Director) job application. Raises a lot of exploitation red flags to me...

https://coyoteandcrow.net/2021/05/09/coyote-crow-creative-opportunities/
That's nuts.

Who would hire an outsider as an intern to eventually run the company? Even at face value it's bonkers.

As mentioned earlier, this guy doesn't know how to run a company. It's probably why he's looking for someone else to do it, but the fact he's looking for a high-level employee to start out as an intern until they "prove themself" or something shows he has no clue what he's doing.

He's gonna piss away that KS money in no time.

hedgehobbit

#64
August 06, 2022, 09:02:42 AM
Quote from: Visitor Q on August 06, 2022, 02:46:27 AMFinally check out the Intern (Director) job application. Raises a lot of exploitation red flags to me...

https://coyoteandcrow.net/2021/05/09/coyote-crow-creative-opportunities/

The main thing I see here is how he refers to the director position as doing "menial work". As I guy that ran a business for over a decade, most of my job would be menial work: bank runs, filling out government forms, dealing with payroll, talking to vendors etc. I guess Connor found that running an RPG company wasn't the exciting game experience he was expecting.

The other was how he thinks Coyote & Crow is in it for the "long haul". A million dollar Kickstarter is one thing, but trying to parley that into a stable job in the future is something completely different. And their Kickstarter page showed over 22 people involved already. That million dollars isn't going to last long split 22 ways. 

Krugus

#65
August 06, 2022, 09:47:01 AM
Quote from: DocJones on August 06, 2022, 08:53:30 AM
No wampum for Conner.


According to various sources on the internet..... Iron Eyes Cody (born Espera Oscar de Corti, April 3, 1904 – January 4, 1999) was an American actor of Italian descent who portrayed Native Americans in Hollywood films.

He is more Native American than the author of C&C :p
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#66
August 06, 2022, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: Krugus on August 06, 2022, 09:47:01 AM
He is more Native American than the author of C&C :p

Ha ha... Probably true. ;)
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#67
August 06, 2022, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: Effete on August 06, 2022, 08:57:41 AM
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He's gonna piss away that KS money in no time.

It's my suspicion, without any knowledge mind you, that the money is already gone. Eaten up by expenses he had no clue about.
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Zalman

#68
August 06, 2022, 12:37:15 PM
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on August 06, 2022, 10:56:06 AM
It's my suspicion, without any knowledge mind you, that the money is already gone. Eaten up by expenses he had no clue about.

Expenses like, you know, actually paying the artists and other contributors. Obviously he learned nothing from Jamison Stone.
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gawdsofwar

#70
August 06, 2022, 01:46:00 PM
This is just bizarre.

If I buy your stuff, you no longer have any say in what I do with it.  I'm bound by national and state laws, local ordinances, the Ten Commandments, and the unwritten rules of basic human decency and old-fashioned politeness. 

Note the absence of "the insane rantings of activist game developers". 

DocJones

#71
August 06, 2022, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Krugus on August 06, 2022, 09:47:01 AM
According to various sources on the internet..... Iron Eyes Cody (born Espera Oscar de Corti, April 3, 1904 – January 4, 1999) was an American actor of Italian descent who portrayed Native Americans in Hollywood films.

He is more Native American than the author of C&C :p
Yes he was Sicilian. 
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SHARK

#72
August 06, 2022, 03:09:39 PM
Greetings!

It sounds like a terrible game. The author sounds like a terrible, racist fuck. That is condescending as well, and arrogant. He can get fucked.

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Neoplatonist1

#73
August 06, 2022, 04:41:57 PM
I wonder if white people have permission to LARP this.

Ocule

#74
August 06, 2022, 07:31:13 PM
Holy crap that dude looks less native american than I do. And i'm italian lol
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